Solid edge .. progress... new laptop

the new laptop dell m6300 needed a lot of configuration, meantime i
was wondering why things were so difficult.

the mouse pad did a click at the faintest touch.... and if you had any
sticky on yer fingers from drinking beer while you type, smoke crack
or anything, it went into total glitch mode... otherwise its a good
machine. as it turns out so far not much faster than my 500 dollar
compaq... and it has a non glare screen... dullllll...

also the high res screen makes the icons small, some dont enlarge
either.. some of those were 1/8" square with graphics in them you need
to see. Fix was going to larger type but not on the usual menu's and
'sharp type'..back to high res screen, then 'large buttons'.. its now
readable. without the nonglare screen, it would be even more
readable.


Intel may well be slower than AMD for graphics...I notice a lot of
high end cad machines use AMD with ATI cards... my 500 dollar compaq
has that set up.. its not slow on cad at all. (Dell uses intel)

be sure to get the glossy screen.. street prices on ebay are about
half list price... looks like custom orders not picked up. .. it came
in a dell factory box, with all factory docs and original lables
etc... quality merchandize but not to order is all. saved me 1500
bucks.

i got a 17" second monitor, touch screen..that will save all that
mousing around and aiming the little arrow thang... i also got a
wacom intuos 3 tablet.. (high res graphics pad)..that with the pen
makes a great mouse hopefully, it has buttons on the pen... you can
get those new on ebay in the 160 dollar range.


SE after about 50 hours of doing its tutorials turns out to be about
1/5th as difficult to learn as Inventor, but still not easy... the
tutorials are excellent but still there must be a less pedantic time
consuming way to learn... a brain transplant or something.


if I ever do a training course it would be mostly narrative..' listen,
look at the screen, and do'...with a wireless pause button on the
recording.

for us old farts taking your eyes away from the screen and having to
remember what was typed in the tutorial slows things up a lot.



the latest semi inside info on the synchronous release is mid
August.... it goes to production..thats the tennative 'release' date..
so it would be late august before its manufactured and we get it in
the mail.... my guess is september....I think there will be more last
miinute tweeks...

.. I will probably slide my first synch class to Oct or Nov.




Phil scott

 

Did you get it from Dell or Ebay. What video card does it have. What
processor is it. Is it running Vista or XP. How much memory included. I
find that the touch pad is lousy for cad work so I use a mouse with
Spaceball.

Take a look at www.myigetit.com for some additional training. They have
a Solidedge bundle available for $25.00. I've been taking their UG
bundle and it seems to be pretty decent training and for 25.00 it's
cheaper than a book. Since you have 2 monitors you could open the
training on one monitor & have SE open on the other one.

 

good questions especially when buying on ebay...

Mine is an XP machine, intel 2 core duo. 2.2 mghz. with Nvida
M1600m card, 2 gigs ram , 80gig hd, dvd/cd burrner. 1920x 1200 or
whatever screen (but not with the ultra clear surface).. those go from
$1,450 to $1,800...some try to hit homeruns at 2200 or so.

with the lower res screen, maybe $200 less.

With the fastest nVida card, M3600 about $2,500 as a rule... thats
700-800 under list.

the Vista machines same general spec for $1,100 or so... those babies
are not selling well at all.


The previous generation, the M90 machines go for 400 to 500 dollars
less, same spec. .. if they are vista machines they go for 500 to 600
dollars. (used but in very good condition).

! THANKS for the tip... I will order it.

is it easier than the tutorials?


Phil scott

 

"the latest semi inside info on the synchronous release is mid
August.... it goes to production..thats the tennative 'release' date..
so it would be late august before its manufactured and we get it in
the mail.... my guess is september....I think there will be more last
miinute tweeks... "


UG NX 6 with Synchronous Technology got released on time.

http://tinyurl.com/6qvtjb

Solid Edge Synchronous Technology missed the August 1st ship date.
Your "semi inside info" seems logical to me. I could ask my VAR for an
update if you need it.

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA

 

Read the technical manuals.
Do not ask jb for support or clues.
Do not pass Go.

 

As I posted: End of July, early August. I also posted you can hold me
to this time frame.
] - jon banquer Jul 9 2008

As I posted: End of July, early August. I also posted you can hold me
to this time frame.
] - jon banquer Jul 9 2008

You don't have a VAR as you buy nothing.

[

No truth to this at all.

It will start shipping much sooner than you guess it will.
] - jon banquer Jun 24 2008

[

As I posted: End of July, early August. I also posted you can hold me
to this time frame.
] - jon banquer Jul 9 2008

As I posted: End of July, early August. I also posted you can hold me
to this time frame.
] - jon banquer Jul 9 2008

Now we are holding you to it, "insider info jonnie" <BSEG>.

 

seems to be a seconds dealer selling exclusively for dell on ebay
judging by
the box and his other offerings... nothing but new dell computers.

 

most of us know that rushing software to market is a mistake..I hope
they take
their time.


Phil scott

 

That will never happen.. They have to rush to get you to buy it so they
can get a paycheck.. They have up until the next version to work all the
bugs out

 

that is no doubt 99% correct... with seimens though SE is a small part
of a much larger cash flow..so they may be interested in reducing
their
follow-up support costs at least some extent.

Phil scott

 

Seems like some VARs for SE jumped the gun .... though I recall the
UG 10.5 push too.
Perhaps jb can at least buy free poster <g>.

 

and of course, do not collect $200.. which is too bad, you could use
that to go towards maintenance costs..

 

Ummm, I never buy the first model of what might be another Pinto.

 

what do you suppose maintenance costs might be?

I asked at the intro event and they said that new versions would be
issued at no charge... makes sense for the firrst few in this case,
its going to be buggy most likely... I cant see them sending out new
versions though forever at no cost.


Phil scott

 

boy that sucker was a piece of junk.. i can recall sitting in one at
a dealr when they
first came out, thhe steering wheel felt like it was tied to the
steering column by rubber bands..

it just screamed junk.

 

Can't speak for Siemens, but SW VAR's charge ~$1,500 for yearly
maintenance..

 

I doubt you got that in writing.
Or you misunderstood or the salesdroid was really a newbie.

 

I asked, they said 'no charge' for 'later releases'.. whch did not
actually answer the 'maintenance' issue. I didnt get it in
writing...

they did pause and glance around a bit before answering... the answer
was not elaborated..very brief. 'no'.
I asked though about the new versions sure to follow this new release,
if those would be charged for, the answer from the VAR was 'no'...
but not elaborated.. no one in the audience of about 10 people pursued
the issue.

My guess, the first few debugs to synch will be free... then
laterafter the first few waves of bugs are fixed they will charge.
the document I signed in order to get the intro price said very
plainly though that I agreed to 'maintenance, or maybe maintenance
*charges'... it did not indicate a charge amount involved... odd.
a contract is not valid unless it defines a sum or exchange.

the discount on the software is exchange on their part, but with no
amount specified for the maintenance its an odd way to do a valid
contract.in the US at least... they also had a requirment that I cease
with IV instantly.. I informed them that no one in their right mind
who wished to keep operating would cease cold turkey with their old
system to move to a new one, especially a beta version... regardless
you still need to deal with old clients and ongong work on the
appropreate platform.

they talked it over and agreed, then typed me up a new more reasonable
agreement 'that I would be phasing out IV as SE proved viable for my
operations'...I signed that.


So far they are very helpful on the phone with no mention of a
charge...they just want my purchase ID number.


Phil scott

 

Is that $1,500 per year per seat? Inventor is maybe $1,800 a
year, I didnt buy it. thats a lot of money for us light users.

Phil scott

 

The maintenance fees will cover later releases. Pay the maintenance
fee & you get them.

Probaby patches for the release you paid for as long as it's
the latest release & just a patch will do (and you need it).
Check the UGS Site for what's current.

And always read the release notes as your first item of business.
Very handy.
Install docs to if they exist. Also known issues & driver stuff.

That's part of support.