Back at the issue. I've got files that are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally slow at outputing dxf files. Could someone help me with this. I've posted an attachment dwg file in the customer files section under the subject "slow dxfout". If someone could just take a look and help me figure this one out. I really think it's just a setting that I've got set. In a new dwg using the template it works fine, but I've got various settings that get set automatically throughout my 3/4 meg worth of code. If I could figure out which variable it is then I could isolate it in my code. Thanks for your help, Devin