Sketcher - Unit Size

Looking for a way to change the default unit size/scale when sketching - In
other words, when sketching a rectangle I want the size of the rectangle to
be 5 x 10 as opposed to 50 x 100 - I would like the setcher size to be in
the ball park of my average model size

Thanks

 

I believe the first sketch in a part is roughly the size of a reference
plane.

Reference plane sizes are configurable as long as there are no features in
the part. Go to Tools->Options->View and change the ref plane size. Make
this change in your template part and you should have the desired result.

Dave

 

I too would like a way to set the default empty model size, but your
above instructions just take me to the config.pro settings.

 

I understand the concept of changing the plane size but can not find the
ref_plane_size setting in the Options settings

 

: In article <3fde175a$0$34629$>,
: says...
: > Go to Tools->Options->View
: >
: I too would like a way to set the default empty model size, but your
: above instructions just take me to the config.pro settings.
: --
: Arlin
: (remove '351' from email to reply)

There may be some hidden option in WF or WFII to change the default "world" size,
I haven't seen it but it's been requested for some time. As a dirty workaround,
you can redefine the start part default datums, making the references to a radius,
on the scale you'd like your "world" to be. In WF, there is a 'view' check box,
which, when checked, allows you to change the radius. This may be what Geesaman
was referring to.

David Janes

 

Don't know what you are referring to here, there is no Tools->Options->View
in my menu's, is that Wildfire?

Do you mean datum plane? Datum planes are infinite. You can size datum
planes, except those made on-the-fly, to visually fit a part, feature,
surface, edge, axis, or radius.

The first datum planes in my part appear to visually measure about 508
drawing units in sketcher. Don't know how Proe sets that, but It would be
useful to be able to change it.

Dave

 

Interestingly, with only default datums in the model, which are supposed to
be infinite, Analysis/Model size shows a finite model size of 881.0254
units.

 

You CAN change the default datum plane size in Wildfire 1 and 2, and,
by extension, the default sketcher scale.

Open your start part, and select each default plane and do EDIT
DEFINITION. On the DISPLAY tab, select ADJUST OUTLINE. For the
RADIUS value, enter a small value, like 10 or 9 (the default is 500!).

A 10" value gives you a sketcher scale of about 3:1, because of the
max/min zoom ratio and because the actual size of the model window is
maybe half that of the entire desktop.

Here's the rub: The default planes will scale down to fit features
and sketches smaller than the plane size, but WILL NOT scale up to
larger features! So if you set the planes to 10" and draw a 50" part,
the datum planes will be restricted to no more than 10", and will
appear inside the model.

Maybe there's a happy medium, 100" or 80" or something, depending upon
the largest part you intend to build.

Regards
Pete

 

:
: : >
: > : > > I believe the first sketch in a part is roughly the size of a reference
: > > plane.
: > >
: > > Reference plane sizes are configurable as long as there are no features
: in
: > > the part. Go to Tools->Options->View and change the ref plane size.
: Make
: > > this change in your template part and you should have the desired
: result.
: > >
: >
: > Don't know what you are referring to here, there is no
: Tools->Options->View
: > in my menu's, is that Wildfire?
: >
: > Do you mean datum plane? Datum planes are infinite. You can size datum
: > planes, except those made on-the-fly, to visually fit a part, feature,
: > surface, edge, axis, or radius.
: >
: > The first datum planes in my part appear to visually measure about 508
: > drawing units in sketcher. Don't know how Proe sets that, but It would be
: > useful to be able to change it.
:
: Interestingly, with only default datums in the model, which are supposed to
: be infinite, Analysis/Model size shows a finite model size of 881.0254
: units.
:
Yes, theoretically infinite, but with edges, so practically, at some arbitrary
"world" size. As first features, default datums can be resized only with radius.
When done in start parts, gives a better starting size, except that, in drawing
mode, these radiuses show up in detailing. A config option to set the "world" size
would be a benefit.

David Janes

 

My apologies to everyone. I absentminded answered this question for
SolidEdge. I don't know the equivalent procedure in Wildfire.

Dave

 

Got it and made the change - Thanks

 

Thanks Pete. This works in rel 2001 also, right click the datum plane, click
'Attributes' done, click 'Fit Radius' done, enter a sensible value, enter.

 

Datum planes ARE infinite.........in theory. In ProE, however, they
are pre-set at 508.66". If you don't believe this, open up Wildfire
2, create the defaults, and then rmb>edit definition and see what the
values are in the width/height fields.


Pete