Simple Die & Fixture Designer needed

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by pokeroutlaw69, Jun 28, 2006.

  1. I hope this is not the wrong place to this, please forgive/redirect me
    if so.

    I need to find a subcontract Fixture and Die Designer fluent in Pro/E
    in Southern GA.

    This is an excellent entry level position, some experience with
    fixtures and dies would be required. I would like to get a feel for
    the talent and interest available for this job. I am not a recruiter,
    and we do not pay recruiters.

    I want to know if we can feel this position with local talent.
     
    pokeroutlaw69, Jun 28, 2006
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    cad/cam/guy Guest

    cad/cam/guy, Jun 28, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    That is certainly a professional and goodhearted suggestion. I worry only that I
    have gotten quality interviews out of that site because companies who are serious
    about recruiting talented, competent Pro/ENGINEERS use this site to find help. I
    wouldn't want to cheapen it or cheese it up. The guy you're sending there seems of
    that calibre and category: no company name, no pay rate, sub-contracted (but "NO
    RECRUITERS"!?!), "entry level" always rings the extra cheese, "special" sauce
    bell. Sorry, doesn't sound like a job that belongs on pejn.com though maybe on
    mcad central:
    http://www.mcadcentral.com/jobs/default.asp
     
    David Janes, Jun 29, 2006
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    allennella Guest

     
    allennella, Jun 29, 2006
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    allennella Guest

     
    allennella, Jun 29, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    Oh, yeah, and he wants to "feel (sic) this position with local talent" (Southern
    Georgia) so he comes to an international center!?! How about an ad in the Valdosta
    Daily Times or post the ad on a bulletin board of Valdosta State College or
    Valdosta Tech. Come to think of it, even mcad central is overreaching.
     
    David Janes, Jun 29, 2006
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    cad/cam/guy Guest

    David,

    Pejn.. well if the ad reads like it did here then they won't put it up
    on the site.

    If it's a serious offer then it will have to be stated in such a
    manner.
     
    cad/cam/guy, Jun 29, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    Ya gotta admit, it's hard to state an entry level job where it's kind of optional
    to know anything about dies and fixtures, located in Southern Georgia for an
    unknown employer where the advertizer is looking for 'local talent'
    internationally "in such a serious manner". This is the serious manner of a
    fishing party (free booze provided with the complimentary video poker). Hey, I
    design dies and fixtures! Can I join the party!?! (Ooops, I guess I'm not entry
    level or local talent or knowledge of dies and fixtures optional or
    CHEAP!!CHEAP!!!!CHEAP!!!!CHEAP!!CHEAP!!)
     
    David Janes, Jun 30, 2006
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    John Wade Guest

    What leapt out at me was 'fluent' and 'entry level'

    Are those not contradictory requirements?

    I think there was a Dilbert cartoon on that subject a few years ago, in
    which 'the company' announced their policy of only hiring people at the
    top of their field, whilst paying industry average wages (sound
    familiar?) - One can only assume this fellow isn't really up to speed
    with his Scott Adams, which really is his loss.
     
    John Wade, Jun 30, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    Such ironies, IMHO, serve only to rub the novice's nose in the fact that s/he is a
    NOVICE, thus, ought to be grateful for any consideration (including pay)
    whatsoever. We always screemed at the injustice/stupidity of REQUIRING "a minimum
    of 2 years experience" for entry level jobs. "Where do we get the experience if no
    one will hire us without it!?!" we cried, searching the heavens for an answer.
    Turns out, they hired us anyway, just let us know that we weren't really good
    enough and had to work twice as hard, at half pay, to "earn our spurs" and be
    grateful (effusively so) for the opportunity. Medievalism and the guild mentality
    (apprentice/journeyman/master) never died. It just wormed and weaselled its way
    into capitalism.

    The abscence of an appreciation for the ironies in self-contradictory requirements
    is probably the most 'charming' side of such block heads. Other than that, they're
    idiot savants who know business and making a buck and nothing else.
     
    David Janes, Jun 30, 2006
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