Simple CAD?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by JB, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. JB

    JB Guest

    Purely a hobbyist, making radio controlled boats both electric and yachts, I
    have been trying to find a simple CAD system which does not cost the earth
    (even free!!!!).

    The main use would be to develope hull lines so that I could have a "Look
    See" before construction.

    Any advice or hints?

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 9, 2004
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  2. Cheap? IntelliCAD
    Simple.......how simple is simple?

    MichaelB
    www.michaelbulatovich.com

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "JB" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>
    Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
    Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:56 AM
    Subject: Simple CAD?
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Aug 9, 2004
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  3. JB

    bestafor Guest

    HiHo;
    You might take a look at "Rhino" from www.mcneel.com
    It's a great program for hull design.
     
    bestafor, Aug 9, 2004
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  4. JB

    Tim Badger Guest

    Intellicad would probably be your best bet. It's not free... but it can be
    had for about a tenth of price of Autocad. The one I would suggest is from
    Bricscad. You can down load a free 30 day trial copy from them at...

    http://www.bricscad.com/home.jsp?site=1

    .... I don't know of any free cad packages.

    Take care,
    TimB
     
    Tim Badger, Aug 9, 2004
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  5. JB

    JB Guest

    Simple enough to let me perform the functions of hull design.
    I am computer literate and a retired engineer so some degree of difficulty
    is not a problem as long as there is not too much gobble de gook
    Any input welcome

    JB

     
    JB, Aug 9, 2004
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  6. JB

    JB Guest

    $895 is not buttons - will have to stick to my drawing board and cardboard
    mock-ups
    at that price.
    Pensioners can't splash cash even though the product looks good
    I may try the trial version if they have one.
    Thanks

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 9, 2004
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  7. I'm not trying to confuse things for you, but there are applications out
    there that will model shapes like boat hulls much better than AutoCAD. I
    draw (usually) orthogonal buildings so I have zero experience in this. You
    have been directed to one such application, but as you point out, it's not
    to be had for pocket change.

    I'm not sure what you hope to get by drafting your designs with CAD. If you
    can draw on paper, I'd stick with that for your purposes. Any CAD package is
    going to take some time to learn. Why spend all that time learning CAD when
    you could be building models, which I take it you like to do. (I thought old
    boat designers built physical models, and developed sections from them.)
    --


    MichaelB
    www.michaelbulatovich.com


     
    Michael Bulatovich, Aug 9, 2004
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  8. JB

    JB Guest

    Very true, on occasions I have built 3 or 4 hulls before I was satisfied.
    This can be costly on time and sometimes on materials.

    Many thanks for your help

    JB

     
    JB, Aug 9, 2004
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  9. JB

    Jim Patrick Guest

    Perhaps not a bad idea. Rhino's cheap as CAD goes. One of Rhino's
    features is stripping: laying out the planks for a hull (or other)
    shape. (This IS the alt.cad.autocad group, and Autocad's ~$3k ) That
    said, there's a lot of other CAD that is cheaper and still functions
    well. Intellicad is one popular package, Turbocad's another.

    Very few pieces of software do a decent job of hull modeling. Even
    then the user has to know what they're doing and how the software
    works. Rhino does have a trial version, so you can get a feel to see
    if this is *really* the way you want to go. <grin>
     
    Jim Patrick, Aug 9, 2004
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    CW Guest

    I used to do that . Now I build the whole thing in 3d before I ever start
    on the physical model. Virtually eliminates those "now that I look at it, I
    sould have done things a bit differently" moments.
     
    CW, Aug 10, 2004
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    Phil Davis
    247PalmBeachRE.com
    I don't know about how simple it is when it come to hull
    design or CAD but here is a link to some free and
    interesting hull design software:

    http://www.carlsondesign.com/#Fun_Shareware

    And a page with several links on boatbuilding:

    http://home.clara.net/gmatkin/softwr.htm

    Have fun!

    Phil
     
    Philip E. Davis, Aug 10, 2004
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  12. JB

    JB Guest

    I have had a look at this option but it would probably mean wiping my hard
    drive and restarting to do the conversion properly.
    As it may or may not be suitable, I will not endeavour to attempt
    installation
    Many thanks
    JB
     
    JB, Aug 12, 2004
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    Zachary Guest

    Hi JB,

    I don't have an experiance in this area either.
    Just for fun try playing around with SILO.
    http://nevercenter.com/index.php/Downloads/504
    I've found that it is the most intuitive modeling program around and
    it is very cheap. The shapes that it makes just seem to be naturaly
    flowing and beautiful.

    Best of luck
    Zac.
     
    Zachary, Aug 12, 2004
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  14. JB

    JB Guest

    I have come to the conclusion, that other than spending an inappropriate
    amount of money for after all is a hobby, there are no suitable simple
    programmes for evolving and designing hull lines.

    Unless of course someone can prove me completely wrong

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 14, 2004
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    CW Guest

    What do you call an inappropriate amount of money? $5.00? $500.00?
    $5000.00? If you want a freeform NURBS programs for under $100.00 that is
    easy to use, forget it. If you want a 2D program for zero cash that you
    could design a supertanker with, that is available. Turbocad Pro V4 is the
    first program that comes to mind. Up until recently, a free download from
    IMSI. They dropped it simply because it took a little attention to detail to
    install it on XP and they got tired of answering questions. You could
    probably convince me to send you a copy. If you want to join the AutoCAD
    crowd without depleting your savings, Intellicad LT, at $60.00 is a very
    good program that is so much like AutoCAD that if you can run one you can
    run the other. There are more. Deltacad, at $30.00, is less sophisticated
    than the previous two mentioned but is relatively easy to use and will do
    the job. Silo has been suggested. It looks like it may well do the job, and
    in 3D, but it is going to take some learning. With a price tag of just over
    $100.00, it is not at all expensive.
     
    CW, Aug 14, 2004
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  16. JB

    JB Guest

    I have downloaded the trial version of DeltaCad and I will you know how I
    get on with the program.
    If it can do gears it should manage hull line curves etc.

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 14, 2004
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