R2005: Is there a better way to get the real returned from the display color properties in stead of: (setq cur_col (vlax-variant-value (vlax-make-variant (vlax-get-property (vla-get-display (vla-get-preferences (vlax-get-acad-object))) Dtype) vlax-vbLong) ) ) This works but I have a feeling my inexperience is keeping me from a shorter method. TIA Bill