Select all dimensions

rel 2001, how do I select all dimensions to modify their properties by means
of a box, rather then selecting them all individually with the shift key?

thanks

Dave

 

Hopefully all of your dims are in a separate layer. If so turn off and
freeze all layers except dims then select them using a window or crossing or
by typing ALL when the prompt asks for a selection.

 

But the Edit/Properties command is greyed out until AFTER selection! There
is no prompt.

 

: rel 2001, how do I select all dimensions to modify their properties by means
: of a box, rather then selecting them all individually with the shift key?
:
Is this the problem of the selection 'fence' icon being grayed out? If you don't
even have one, you can go to 'Customize Screen>Commands>Edit' (while you're in
Drawing mode). The icon palette should have several selection icons, including the
fence. If all that's working, you hold down the left mouse button and drag the
fence around a bunch of dimensions and they should select. In WF this selection
method is on and working by default, but I don't see any way, in config.pro or
anywhere else, to turn it on or off. Hey, I hope someone running 2001 can be more
help.

David Janes

 

Is draw_models_read_only set to Yes?

 

:
: : > "dakeb" wrote...
: > > rel 2001, how do I select all dimensions to modify their properties by
: > means
: > > of a box, rather then selecting them all individually with the shift
: key?
: >
: > Hopefully all of your dims are in a separate layer. If so turn off and
: > freeze all layers except dims then select them using a window or crossing
: or
: > by typing ALL when the prompt asks for a selection.
: >
: But the Edit/Properties command is greyed out until AFTER selection! There
: is no prompt.
:
I couldn't get it to show Properties if a note or any nondimension text got
selected. But if I Ctrl clicked to unselect it, Properties now appeared as a
selection.

 

I couldn't get it to show Properties if a note or

If 2001 has a Find tool using it is probably more appropriate than using
layer manipulations (you won't get the extraneous entities that disable
an operation).

 

I don't have 'Edit' under 'Customize Screen>Commands>

 

Ctrl only affects the screen zom, not selection. I can only select multiple
dimensions using shift-click. Then I can't unselect any.

 

Edit/Find in Sheet only tells me how many dimensions are on the sheet. It
doesn't even highlight them like it's supposed to, let alone select them.

 

: > I couldn't get it to show Properties if a note or
: > any nondimension text got selected. But if I Ctrl
: > clicked to unselect it, Properties now appeared as
: > a selection.
:
: If 2001 has a Find tool using it is probably more appropriate than using
: layer manipulations (you won't get the extraneous entities that disable
: an operation).
:
Yeah, good point! Find is pretty handy for a lot of stuff, including placing
things on layers. It can even distinguish between driven and driving dimensions.

Can't remember when it came in. I don't remember seeing/using until Wildfire, but
that could just mean that there were areas of 2001 I didn't get around to
exploring.

BTW, drawing_models_readonly set to yes kills Properties, for sure. It does it, no
matter how you select stuff. But its effect is very broad: you can't edit any
dimension value, propterty, tolerance, num digits, nada. Locks you out from
changing anything that normally gets stored back to the model.

 

: > : > >"dakeb" wrote...
: > : > > rel 2001, how do I select all dimensions to modify their properties by
means
: > : > > of a box, rather then selecting them all individually with the shift
key?

: > : > Hopefully all of your dims are in a separate layer. If so turn off
: and
: > : > freeze all layers except dims then select them using a window or
: crossing
: > : or
: > : > by typing ALL when the prompt asks for a selection.
: > : >
: > : But the Edit/Properties command is greyed out until AFTER selection!
: There
: > : is no prompt.
: > :
: > I couldn't get it to show Properties if a note or any nondimension text
: got
: > selected. But if I Ctrl clicked to unselect it, Properties now appeared as
: a
: > selection.
: >
:
: Ctrl only affects the screen zom, not selection. I can only select multiple
: dimensions using shift-click. Then I can't unselect any.
:
After you get them selected, however you do it, isn't there something in an RMB
activated menu that could help with deselecting? I mean, there HAS to be a way to
deselect! At very least, shift clicking something ought to deselect as well as
select. No? Pro/GOOFY strikes again?!?

 

: I don't have 'Edit' under 'Customize Screen>Commands>
:
If you have an icon for Regenerate, the selection icons might be in that toolbar,
whatever it's called. Hopefully, someone who's looking at 2001 can tell you
definitively that you should or should not have this functionality. Hard to
believe they changed that much stuff in WF, but it's been over a year since I've
seen 2001 so I just don't remember.

 

You must be requesting the old Modify Dim/ Pick Many. If I remember it
was removed from 2001 menu to the Right click Properties but it is still
there behind the scenes.

Must all of the menus are still running behind the stupid WildFire
interface.

You can rename it for what make senses for you

mapkey 4 @MAPKEY_LABELMod Dim;#MODIFY;#DIMENSION;@PAUSE_FOR_SCREEN_PICK;\

mapkey(continued) @PAUSE_FOR_SCREEN_PICK;



mapkey $F7 @MAPKEY_NAME Drag Window To Modify Dimensions;\

mapkey(continued) @MAPKEY_LABELModify_Dimensions_Many;#MODIFY;#DIMENSION;
#PICK MANY

 

:
: Must all of the menus are still running behind the stupid WildFire
: interface.
:
None of this stuff is a problem in WF. If anything, it fixed some of the problems
that the switch to 2001 caused. Dragging a box to select multiple dimensions is
the default and works quite well. Then you can RMB 'Properties' and change
tolerance mode, tolerance value, num digits, etc.

As far as the interface changes, I remember similar complaints when they started
using icons. But anything that was iconized was superior to the jerky, flashy
mapkey equivalent. IMO, the only thing mapkeys ever did was to get you quickly to
a point where you could spend half your time shifting around a bunch of gawky,
gangly windows. The stuff in Pro/e that's been streamlining the interface has been
all to the good and is making the program much more useable. In addition,
functionality is getting fixed. I've not heard anyone complain that the rib or
draft function are worse in WF. I take that to be confirmation of my estimate that
they've been much improved. It also can't hurt the program and its usability that
PTC is making efforts to get rid, slowly, of the free floating windows in favor of
using screen regions on a full screen program. You can see this not only in the
Dashboard but also in the multiple uses of the left side of the screen for a Model
Tree, Layer Tree and some file management functions which are more and more Java
based and work with J-Link for builtin interface programmability. True, it aint
your Daddy's Cadillac, but it don't stink like your Daddy's Cadillac, either.

David Janes

 

Wild fire is one step forward and two step back.
2001 is the only solid version so far!

Says who. Who wrote the rules? There is no rules for interfaces. Just
because Solid works has tones of icons we have to follow it.

The best interface is no interface. Which eventually we will get there
with Direct Modeling.
Push buttons if you want I would rather use my keyboard!

Yes my mapkeys are very flashy Thank you very much. That is how I learned
to use ProE "18" and I continue to automate all the Redundant steps that
the Marketing from PTC trows at you.


I use WF everyday and I moving forward. I'm not stock in the past. WF is
here to stay and we all have to learn it like or not but interface is not
there yet.
The dashboard is good for the new users but it doesn't do a thing to me.
Solid Edge had one many many years ago. It doesn't give you any feedback!
It is just there to be pushed at random!
The Dashboard it will continue to mature on the next version! More
changes!

Push buttons on the dashboard until the cowls come home if I care but I
would rather let the computer to take me to the sketcher in one stroke.

But is Ok for you continue to push icons or you could use the Escape key
to close this window. Go for it!

 

No, there is no deselect. If you shift-click an already selected dimension
you just start dragging all the selected dimensions simultaneously. Lorra
good that is! RMB just gives you the dims modification menu.

 

Thanks Marco, the ModDim mapkey worked great. I added an icon to my menu
bar. The Drag Window mapkey is not required as the ModDim mapkey
automatically brings up a GET SELECT menu in the Menu Manager, which has a
Pick Many option!

 

There is nothing wrong with using icons, just as there is nothing wrong with
using the keyboard, it comes down to personal preference. I used your mapkey
with thanks, but made an icon for it and placed it on my toolbar, and that
is perfect for me. It's much better than shift-selecting all the dimensions
and then rmb clicking. I can't see us moving to WF for some time yet.

Dave

 

No problem.

Dave have you ever try the 2 clicks to the sketcher.

1. Select Datum plane for the sketcher. "It must turn RED"/ 2. Insert-
Protrusion-Extrude.

You are in the sketcher in 2 steps, no mapkeys.

You can't do this on WF anymore!

Have you try changing the scale of your Datum Planes?

As you know the Default units is about 500 units too big for me but If you
are creating big parts leave it as it is or try this.

Open your Start part or create one.

Open Model tree - Right click on each Datum plane and Redefine -Attributes-
Done - Fit Radius -Done. Change to 8.000 units or whatever size do you
usually work with.

Next time you are in the sketcher everything is pretty close to your
default scale.

I hope you like it.

PTC should have a wizard that would help you customize your Start Part and
Start Drawings and many others little tweaks that takes years to figure it
out!

That would attract new customer!


Marco