Running without a PDM Package

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Michael Brusich, Jun 24, 2004.

  1. We will have a need for a PDM package, but can't afford to purchase
    immediately. In the meantime, I need to run without one. We have a
    file server to store data but the server would not be sufficient as an
    Engineering server (another problem). What I want to do is Store
    files on the server, load assemblies locally, from the server to work
    on them, then place them on the server when finished. The problem is
    how to do this with more than one user without creating a mess with
    parts that may be used in multiple assemblies. I haven't even
    considered revision issues, but I'm sure that's going to be a problem.
    I have seen posts from people who have handled these issues but I
    can't seem to find the pertinent ones through a search.
    Any thoughts that would help me limp along for a while would be
    appreciated.
    Mike
     
    Michael Brusich, Jun 24, 2004
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  2. Michael Brusich

    Michael Guest

    Put your "released" files in a read-only directory.
    make local copies to make changes the files
    when you're ready to release the changed files, move them to the read-only
    directory.

    It takes a fair bit of discipline to make this work.... I'm limping along
    too, and wish for a PDM system on a pretty regular basis...
     
    Michael, Jun 24, 2004
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  3. you could consider using subversions to store the files on your
    fileserver. Subversion is a versioncontrol system.
    http://subversion.tigris.org/
    You work on the local checked out files and check them in when ready.
    Changed files by other are signalised as conficts. Unfortunatly it is
    not possible to resolve the conclict like you can do with text files.

    I'm considering using it but have to test what it will bring me when 2
    engineers are working together. Not the same files, that would be asking
    for trouble. But for instance to check-in the files changed by a
    collegue. They are simple assigned by the status of file.

    Maybe some others can help me with thinkig this over.

    Johnny
     
    Johnny Geling, Jun 24, 2004
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  4. Michael Brusich

    Sporkman Guest

    If you have SolidWorks Office then you have two "Utilities" named
    Compare Geometry and Compare Features. Those could be used to resolve
    conflicts, perhaps. However, differences like changes in Custom
    Properties would not show up with those utilities.

    'Sporky'
     
    Sporkman, Jun 24, 2004
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  5. To both of the Michaels,

    Are you sure you can't afford a simple PDM solution? There are a number of
    inexpensive and pretty easy to implement products available. A couple of
    years ago they were around $500 a seat. Considering the amount of
    engineering time wasted trying to limp along without one, it seems like the
    payoff would be very fast.

    When I was the only designer, file management wasn't too much of a problem.
    As soon as we had two of us working on a project at once, it became a real
    PITA. It only took us a couple of months to decide to get a cheap PDM. We've
    never regretted it.

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Jun 25, 2004
    #5

  6. Despite of using SolidWorks Office I haven't use these utilities in
    daily work. That is because older version of a file are not that easy to
    manage and because the type of work I do. But I can imagine that with
    easy to use of managing versions of file (not design versions, that is
    for adminstrating the design) these tools have their value.

    Johnny
     
    Johnny Geling, Jun 25, 2004
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  7. Michael Brusich

    TheTick Guest

    TheTick, Jun 25, 2004
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  8. Michael Brusich

    Michael Guest

    I can't afford it == managment won't approve the expense

    also, your pricing is somewhat out of date. We're currently running
    straight SW-- To add a stand-alone copy of PDMworks would be $1000, to
    upgrade to OfficePro would be $1500.

    If I could come up with a viable solution in the $500 range, I might be able
    to sell that.
     
    Michael, Jun 25, 2004
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  9. Michael Brusich

    Sporkman Guest

     
    Sporkman, Jun 25, 2004
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  10. There are other costs associated with DBWorks (training, SQL server,
    installation), even so, I'm attempting to push my company to this solution.
    Future uses and integration seem to be best with a SQL database of parts and
    assemblies and interfacing this data with our ERP system.


    --
    Keith Streich
    Pflow Industries, Inc
    5045 North 35th Street
    Milwaukee, WI 53209

    (414) 462-8810
    (414) 535-2195 x124 Direct
    (414) 462-2673 FAX

     
    Keith Streich, Jun 28, 2004
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