Hi Folks. I've posted three files to the customer files area. The subject is "rubble hatch files". The question is, the rubble hatch as shown in the good file only works in brand new drawings. Whenever we try to use it in a "real" situation, it appears as it does in the bad file. What could be causing this? The problem could be solved by a similar hatch that actually works if someone could point me to that. The bad file is an actual drawing that I have erased everything out of, so the culprit is in there somewhere. Thanks! Allison