ropes, chains & equations

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by tony, Apr 28, 2004.

  1. tony

    tony Guest

    hello all..
    the recent post re: 'cosmetic roller chain' has found me
    experimenting.

    a few things i can't seem to get right... perhaps its
    a fundamental misunderstanding on my part..

    say i model a simple pulley.. a solid fixed disk and
    two weights. i can develop the model just fine and sweep
    in a nice 'rope' from top/center of the weights over
    the pulley.

    if i set the sum of the two rope lengths as equal to a constant,
    then raising one weight should lower the other.

    but, will i be able to see this in am assembly file?
    can i "drag" one weight and see the other move?
    or will mates prevent me from moving the weight at all?

    no way to get physical dynamics to simulate one weight falling
    and one rising?

    -tony
     
    tony, Apr 28, 2004
    #1
  2. It will not dynamically move but upon rebuild it will update to the new
    location. Simulation might crap out or not update like you want. Using
    animator you should be able to make a flowing AVI though.
     
    Corey Scheich, Apr 28, 2004
    #2
  3. :> no way to get physical dynamics to simulate one weight
    falling
    SolidWorks' "physical dynamics" is actually "rigid body dynamics".
    Since the rope has a changing shape, it is not a "rigid body".
    You could model it as a chain of connected segments, which would more or
    less result in a "finite elements" approximation of the rope.
    The problem will then be to model the contact between then rope/chain and
    the pulley...
     
    Philippe Guglielmetti, Apr 28, 2004
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  4. tony

    mplanchard Guest

    Tony,

    I tried to model a trebuchet and had to utilize Cosmos\Motion. With
    some help from the Cosmos folks, they were able to get close. But
    when the rope looses its shape and is no longer rigid, things fall
    apart. Like any complex engineering dynamics problem, the only way to
    approximate is in steps.

    So in SolidWorks, I used configurations to represent key steps in the
    motion. Perhaps you can do the same with your weights.

    Regards, Marie
     
    mplanchard, Apr 29, 2004
    #4
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