Rendering time vs Quality

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Arthur Y-S, Sep 25, 2003.

  1. Arthur Y-S

    Arthur Y-S Guest

    I have been toying alot with PW2 and the higher settings vs the
    standard....of course the default settings are ok. Even turing on some of
    the mid-level settings (ie. indirect illumination, ray tracing, etc) there
    is a definate jump in the quality level that is rendered.

    Now here is where I start to get antasy (sp) Every now and then I try to
    kill my PC and crank everythign up to the MAX....WHOO HOO...lets just say
    that I walk away, make some popcorn, watch Gone with the wind twice and at
    that point I look over at the computer and it is still "calculating indirect
    illumination" lol...I am exaggerating, but the bottom line is.....trying to
    factor in getting the most out of the settings. The picture quality seems to
    not have as big a jump from default to mid-level as from mid-level to Max.

    I know the factors of haveing a better computer, hardware and all, but this
    is just more of a question of am I missing out on not using the highest
    settings?
     
    Arthur Y-S, Sep 25, 2003
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  2. Arthur Y-S

    Todd Guest

    My dual Xeon 3.06Ghz with a gig of RAM takes a "long" time too. Much longer
    than PW1.
     
    Todd, Sep 25, 2003
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  3. Arthur Y-S

    Arthur Guest

    We all know that PW2 takes longer than PW1, thats a given.....but dammm I
    would think that at least with a 3ghz and 1gig of RAM would be like night
    and day.

    The program itself, from what I understand would not benfit from dual
    processors, but I think someone once posted that PW does...i dunno.
     
    Arthur, Sep 25, 2003
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  4. I have heard that the processing for SolidWorks is quite linear just the
    nature of the type of processing so it doesn't benefit too much from dual
    processors only about 10% or something. I think Rendering in PhotoWorks
    would also be linear. Although you would think that one processor could do
    the bottom half of the model and the other do the top half. (Ignorance is
    bliss)

    Corey
     
    Corey Scheich, Sep 25, 2003
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  5. Arthur Y-S

    Todd Guest

    Photoworks does take advantage, at least according to task manager. I have
    not benchmarked so I dont know the time difference 1 vs. 2 processors.
     
    Todd, Sep 25, 2003
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  6. Arthur Y-S

    PW_Guru Guest

    Corey,

    PhotoWorks2 (as well as PW1 if you enabled the option) are both fully
    multi-threaded applications and take advantage of Dual Processors.
    The rendering process is one that can actually be split up between
    multiple processors very easily. If you watch PW2 as it is working it
    renders little square regions of the image until the image is
    complete. If you have a dual processor machine it will split out 1 of
    these square regions to each processor. This is commonly referred to
    as 'bucket rendering' - each little square being 1 bucket. The full
    version of MentalRay (as well as many other rendering engines) can
    even distribe these 'buckets' to other machines on your network - this
    is commonly referred to as a RenderFarm - but that's all beside the
    point as PW2 doesn't have this funcitonality.... yet. Basically,
    rendering should be nearly twice as fast on a Dual processor system as
    a single.


    -brian
    www.bxhdesigns.com
     
    PW_Guru, Sep 26, 2003
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  7. Arthur Y-S

    PW_Guru Guest

    Hey guys,

    Not to sound like a pain or anything, but is there a reason why you're
    turning these values up so high? You should really only turn up the
    settings to higher values if there are problems with your current
    image. If you are getting some Anti-Aliasing artifacts then turn up
    the Anti-Aliasing... if you're not, then it's just wasting processor
    time to sit there and get nearly the same quality image as you got at
    the lower settings. Likewise for indirect Illumination - Unless you
    are getting heavy artifacts, there is really no need to turn up the
    slider. The sliders have 'high' ends incase you need them for your
    particular image - every scene and every model is different, so the
    'best' setting for your model is not always going to be the same.

    I like to kick back with a few beers and a movie everynow and then
    while rendering too, but we all gotta pay the bills, and if there's
    negligable difference when turning up the settings I'd advise against
    it... :)

    -b
     
    PW_Guru, Sep 26, 2003
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  8. Arthur Y-S

    Arthur Guest

    Not that I make every image maxed out by any means. I am in agreement with
    what you are saying. Just wanted to see if I was really missing anything by
    not cranking up the volume. The time to quality issue was my real concern.
     
    Arthur, Sep 26, 2003
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  9. Arthur Y-S

    Todd Guest

    Is it just me...

    or does PW2 (and maybe PW1, not sure) render a LOT faster if you "render to
    file" as oppposed to the screen? I havent done any actual benchmarks on this
    but it sure feels that way. I am rendering to JPG at 1024X768 with the
    highest quality setting.....

    Todd
     
    Todd, Sep 26, 2003
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