regression in 1.1?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by daniel, Feb 15, 2005.

  1. daniel

    daniel Guest

    I have just installed 1.1 and find that double clicking on a feature
    does not pull up the dimensions for editing. anyone else have this?
    This happend before in 2004 but was fixed... but now...?

    Daniel
     
    daniel, Feb 15, 2005
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  2. Works fine here.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Feb 15, 2005
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  3. daniel

    daniel Guest


    weird.

    I just restarted in case that was the problem. opened the same part - a
    rectangle extruded in one direction. double click on the FM extrude -
    no joy.

    then I made a new part, rectangle sketch, extrude. double click on the
    part (not FM) showed the extrude dimension. then I tried the FM - no
    joy. Then I tried the part again, and no joy! so it seems flakey at
    best.

    Ideas? have you tried several parts, times?
     
    daniel, Feb 15, 2005
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  4. daniel

    POH Guest

    Yes, this is weird. I installed SP01.1 just yesterday and experienced
    the exact same lack of dynamic highlighting.

    I was about to revert to the previous service pack (SP0.1) when I
    thought to check the System Options settings under "Display/Selection".

    It turns out that my previous setting with "Dynamic highlight from
    graphics view" turned ON had apparently been switched to OFF by the
    installation of SP01.1

    I can't tell you how often I have wished that SolidWorks would simply
    adopt my pre-existing settings, especially when a major version UPGRADE
    is installed. (Why, for example, is it assumed that I want to use dirty
    dishwater grey as the color for my drawing sheets? There are many other
    forced defaults that I don't care for.)

    A service pack application should certainly respect my pre-existing
    settings; however, it seems that SP01.1 did NOT... (I can't understand
    why anyone at SolidWorks would want the Dynamic highlight capability to
    be turned OFF by "default".)

    Per O. Hoel
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    POH, Feb 15, 2005
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  5. daniel

    daniel Guest

    Per,

    THANK YOU! I had really forgotten that there would even be the option
    to turn it on or off. I thought that is just one of those "it just
    works" behaviors. So thank you... I was about to do the un-install! So
    thanks for saving my evening!

    Did you notice other settings that were changed?

    Thanks for posting

    Daniel
     
    daniel, Feb 15, 2005
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  6. daniel

    kb Guest

    kb, Feb 15, 2005
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  7. daniel

    jjs Guest

    Per - you have a great memory - I had forgotten that this even
    existed. One really has to keep ones wits about one when installing
    new SPs. Its a bit like playing 'twister' with Solidworks Corp , but
    I'm getting older and less flexible !!


    Regards


    jonathan
     
    jjs, Feb 15, 2005
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  8. daniel

    POH Guest

    Daniel,

    I haven't used SP01.1 long enough to notice many other unexpected
    changes; however, the lack of Dynamic highlights was also making entity
    selection for the creation of sketch relations an arduous task. I'd
    cursor select a line's endpoint, for example, and then NOT see it
    displayed grapically. Simply trying to make the mid-point of a line
    coincident to the viewport's origin was unnecessarily awkward and
    uncertain without the highlights!

    The display of the Reference Triad (X,Y,Z axes) in the lower left of
    the view port was also turned off without my "authorization".

    The list may grow...

    Again I must wonder why SolidWorks wouldn't force the default to be ON
    for "Dynamic highlight from graphics view". The program loses so much
    without it and, as you stated, the highlighting seems to be the way the
    program "just works". IMO - It certainly is the way the program should
    work.

    Per O. Hoel
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    POH, Feb 15, 2005
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  9. daniel

    POH Guest

    Jonathan,

    Could it be that you applied the service pack under Windows XP? I am
    running Windows 2000 Pro.

    Could it be that you applied SP01.1 as a single patch instead of doing
    it incrementally, as I did, by going from 0.0 to 0.1 to 01.1?

    Do you have 2005 installed alongside 2004 as I do?

    I assume (based upon your UK email address) that you applied the
    English language version, as I did, but who knows what happens with
    German, Chinese, etc., etc.

    Ah, yes the variables. I'm glad you were immune...

    Per O. Hoel
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    POH, Feb 15, 2005
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  10. daniel

    jjs Guest

    win 2000 Pro as well

    sp0.1 -sp1.1

    I did the 0.0 -0.1 the last time .
    No sw2004 - it went with my last hard disk !!

    English language
    Just lucky I think - and I always wear my luck pants ( on my head
    for best effect) when doing these updates.


    Regards


    Jonathan
     
    jjs, Feb 15, 2005
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  11. Think about this. Here is what the help says about this.
    Dynamic highlight from graphics view. Model faces, edges, and vertices are
    highlighted when you move the pointer over a sketch, model, or drawing.

    Ok, so where is the connection to the dimensions popping up and allowing
    changes? I have verified that it is so in SW2005 SP1.1, but I don't
    understand why it affects the dimensions.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Feb 15, 2005
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  12. daniel

    daniel Guest


    I agree. Off the top of my head, I cannot imagine why one would not
    want that set to on always. To me it seems like a basic default,
    without any need for a setting.

    Like buying a car, and sometimes the wheels are optional... when you
    least expect. :)

    Daniel
     
    daniel, Feb 15, 2005
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  13. daniel

    zxys Guest

    Although, not related to this sp, I can tell you that I've seen this
    happen with SW off/on for years!
    It usually happens when working on a part for a long time and somehow
    the graphic calls to the graphics engine are responding?
    btw, it's not just my system, I've seen it happen on other systems.
    Anyhow, the easy fix is to shutdown SW and restart, all is back to
    normal?

    ...
     
    zxys, Feb 15, 2005
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  14. daniel

    zxys Guest

    btw, I think there was a problem with this and other options being
    turned off/on in the beta, if I'm not mistaken?

    ...
     
    zxys, Feb 15, 2005
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  15. Tried to sort this one out.

    SW2004
    Turn on Dynamic highlight from graphics view (DH)
    Cursor moving over the edges of a block highlight the edges.
    Double-click the feature and the dimensions are modifiable.

    Turn off DH, edges do not highlight
    Dims are still available by double-clicking on either the model or the FT

    All as you would expect.



    SW2005
    Turn on Dynamic highlight from graphics view (DH)
    Cursor moving over the edges of a block highlight the edges.
    Double-click the feature and the dimensions are modifiable.

    Turn off DH, edges do not highlight
    Dims are NOT available by double-clicking on either the model or the FT
    Sketch dims ARE available, but only by double-clicking the sketch in the FT

    Not quite the way you would expect - I sent this in.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Feb 16, 2005
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  16. daniel

    daniel Guest


    Thanks for testing and posting. I guess it is a bug then.
     
    daniel, Feb 16, 2005
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  17. daniel

    Muggs Guest

    Thanks Wayne, I thought it was just me.
    I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that sometimes I need to
    Double-click the + in my assemblies to get them to open up. This only
    happens after working for a while, and is intermittent.

    Muggs
     
    Muggs, Feb 16, 2005
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  18. I have seen that also, but have not been able to nail it to the floor yet.
    Observations are the key when chasing something like that.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Feb 16, 2005
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  19. Ohhhh ...thank you, thank you.
    This has been driving me spare.
    One of those blasted service packs has obviously changed a few settings in
    options.

    I sometimes think SWX programmers sometimes do this sort of shit just to
    play with our minds
     
    Neville Williams, Feb 19, 2005
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