R2002 Licensing Question - Is this legal?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by kazooracer, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. kazooracer

    kazooracer Guest

    My company currently uses R2002 but we plan on upgrading to R2006
    before the end of the year. One of our facilities jumped the gun and
    hired a new employee and now they need a new seat of R2002. I've
    explained to our IT people that they can't buy R2002 anymore and that
    we're going to R2006 soon anyways. Their idea is to buy a seat of
    R2006 and install a seat of R2002 on the new employee's PC until we all
    upgrade. Somehow I have this feeling that this isn't acceptable per
    the AutoCAD license agreement, but I can't find anything to support it.
    Is this legal, and if not, where can I find the info to prove it? A
    few responses from a newsgroup won't do it, I need something from the
    license agreement or from AutoDesk to show them.

    Thanks!

    Kazooracer
     
    kazooracer, Nov 3, 2005
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    gruhn Guest

    Somehow I have this feeling that this isn't acceptable per
    They won't actually include everything you can dream up and specificly
    prohibit it. They will spell out exactly what you are allowed to do. It is
    up to you to find the part that says "for use on one CPU" and compare that
    to "I want to use it on two CPUs"
    I highly doubt it.

    Prove it by showing that it is not explicity allowed. It isn't a game of
    "what can I get away with". You aren't set free in the desert and told to
    pick up as many rocks as you want. It is a game of "this is what you get."
    You are given three rocks and told "three rocks." It's not a game of Spot
    The Loophole.

    This, of course, does not mean your management has two brain cells to rub
    together. Good luck.
    Other way around. They need something in the license agreement to show you.
    If they disagree, suggest they get a job in government. It seems to thrive
    on that kind of thinking.
     
    gruhn, Nov 3, 2005
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  3. kazooracer

    Mr. B Guest

    Screw them ALL... go LT and get the LSP enabler from DRCauto.com... total is
    about 1/3 (+/-) the total cost of a full version of AutoCRAP. That is...
    unless you 'need' rendering, etc. (but then again, DrCauto has that add on
    too).

    Regardless, you'll end up spending less $$$$ going that route.

    Just my Humble opinion.

    BruceF
     
    Mr. B, Nov 4, 2005
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  4. kazooracer

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post Mr. B wrote...
    Or you could buy a copy of Intellicad even cheaper than LT and have nearly
    all the functionality that you will need.
     
    Bob Morrison, Nov 4, 2005
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  5. kazooracer

    Mr. B Guest

    True. I tried Intellicad several years ago when it was a free-bee. Had some
    interesting 'bugs' at that time. I've considered it recently (not tried it
    yet). But I get confused in which 'version' to buy from who (ie Cadopia or
    Bricscad)? :)

    Regards,

    BruceF
     
    Mr. B, Nov 4, 2005
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  6. kazooracer

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post Mr. B wrote...
    I use the Bricscad version. They seem to offer a few more bells and
    whistles that Cadopia, but that could be a misconception on my part.
     
    Bob Morrison, Nov 4, 2005
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    Greg Farris Guest

    <Screw them ALL... go LT and get the LSP enabler from DRCauto.com...
    total is
    <about 1/3 (+/-) the total cost of a full version of AutoCRAP. That
    is...
    <unless you 'need' rendering, etc. (but then again, DrCauto has that add
    on
    <too).
    <BruceF


    <Or you could buy a copy of Intellicad even cheaper than LT and have
    nearly
    <all the functionality that you will need.
    <Bob Morrison, PE, SE



    It's amazing how people will miss no opportunity to post off-topic,
    impertinent and unhelpful responses. The guy asked a specific question,
    and the question was NOT "what's your favorite drafting program?" (BTW -
    what use is "nearly all the funcionality that you will need"?!!)

    In response to the OP - why don't you simply write to AutoDesk and
    explain the situation. Tell them you are ready to order another seat of
    2006, but you request a rider on the agreement to allow you to use a
    copy of 2002 until a specified date. They have no reason to see a threat
    in this proposal, and will certainly be interested in the sale. If they
    write back with anything less than an enthusiastic agreement to your
    proposal, write back and tell them the sale has been put on "hold" by
    management.

    G Faris
     
    Greg Farris, Nov 8, 2005
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  8. kazooracer

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post Greg Farris wrote...
    My point was (and still is) that the OP can waste a lot of time messing
    around with Autodesk and then still not get the answer he wants. For a
    price of US$225 he can be up and running and not bother with Autodesk.

    Assuming his time is worth something (or he wouldn't be getting paid) the
    US$225 price is pretty cheap to just get to work and stop messing around
    with the fine points of a EULA.
     
    Bob Morrison, Nov 8, 2005
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  9. kazooracer

    gruhn Guest

    write back with anything less than an enthusiastic agreement to your
    Betcha the sale wouldn't be put on hold though.
     
    gruhn, Nov 8, 2005
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  10. kazooracer

    medeziner Guest

    If your company is talking about buying a NEW seat of R2006 this would
    free up the OLD seat to be installed of the new employee's computer. If
    they are buying an UPGRADE for the old R2002 copy then they will in
    effect be running the OLD copy on two computers. If Autodesk was to
    come in they would ask for the ORIGINAL copies first and that
    would determine how many legal copies you have.
    They do allow you to have one copy running on two computers but
    only where those two computers are not used at the same time. For
    example if you had a copy on your work computer you could also
    put it on your home computer for working there. You would not be
    using both at the same time and it would therefore not be a violation.
    I got this last part straight from Autodesk.


    My company currently uses R2002 but we plan on upgrading to R2006
    before the end of the year. One of our facilities jumped the gun and
    hired a new employee and now they need a new seat of R2002. I've
    explained to our IT people that they can't buy R2002 anymore and that
    we're going to R2006 soon anyways. Their idea is to buy a seat of
    R2006 and install a seat of R2002 on the new employee's PC until we all
    upgrade. Somehow I have this feeling that this isn't acceptable per
    the AutoCAD license agreement, but I can't find anything to support it.
    Is this legal, and if not, where can I find the info to prove it? A
    few responses from a newsgroup won't do it, I need something from the
    license agreement or from AutoDesk to show them.

    Thanks!

    Kazooracer
     
    medeziner, Nov 13, 2005
    #10
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