question about op parameters in spectre

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by tempora123, May 20, 2008.

  1. tempora123

    tempora123 Guest

    hello,

    I have a question concerning dc op analysis. After completing the
    simulation I would like to get some lx parameters' results for
    transistors in my circuit (those familiar with hspice know these
    parameters). I have worked with cadence environment before, where it
    was possible to get a lot of parameters (including lx ones) when doing
    OP("/M1","??") (from menu Results -> Plot -> DC operating points). My
    current working environment doesn't show them. Does anyone know where
    to enable displaying of those parameters?
    Thanks for your help.

    rgds.
     
    tempora123, May 20, 2008
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  2. tempora123

    Riad KACED Guest

    Hi There,

    You have to toggle the 'save OP' switch when you run the DC/Tran for
    example,
    Your netlist should come with something like this in order fro the Op
    parameters to be saved.
    //
    dcOp dc write="spectre.dc" maxiters=150 maxsteps=10000 annotate=status
    dcOpInfo info what=oppoint where=rawfile
    modelParameter info what=models where=rawfile
    //

    Chhers,

    Riad.
     
    Riad KACED, May 20, 2008
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  3. tempora123

    Riad KACED Guest

    Hello Tempora !

    You said in your original post "...those familiar with hspice know
    these parameters ..."
    I not familiar with hspice I'm afraid and I don't know these
    parameters as a consequence, I'm very sorry :-(

    I know however all the parameters dumped by Spectre after an OP
    Analysis. You can find these paraeters i the folowing doc:
    Virtuoso® Simulator Circuit Components and Device Models Manual :
    $CDSHOME/doc/spectremod/spectremod.pdf

    Report for example to the BSIM3V3 Operating-Point Parameters:
    (My doc version is 6.2.1 December 2007), Chapter 21, Page 1161.
    You will find all your wanted LX parameters :
    --> ids (A) Resistive drain-to-source current (alias=lx4).
    --> isub (A) substrate current (alias=lx50).
    ....

    Good luck !

    Riad.
     
    Riad KACED, May 23, 2008
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  4. tempora123

    Riad KACED Guest

    .... Last Post completion ...

    In other words, the LX parameters are aliases in Spectre and you have
    to go through the model document to know the true Spectre's parameter
    names ...

    Riad.
     
    Riad KACED, May 23, 2008
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  5. Riad KACED wrote, on 05/23/08 23:40:
    Or type "spectre -h bsim4" (or whatever the model is) to see the parameters. In
    the Operating Point Parameters section, you'll see lines such as:


    8 vdsat (V) Drain-source saturation voltage (alias=lv10).
    9 gm (S) Common-source transconductance (alias=lx7).
    10 gds (S) Common-source output conductance (alias=lx8).

    (it lists the alias at the end).

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Jun 2, 2008
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