Quality of Software - Survey

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by devlin, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. devlin

    neil Guest

    SW will eventually create a worldwide brainless utopia of prepared thoughts
    and affirming user groups and eliminate all defective free thinkers

    this is easier and more satisfyingly righteous than eliminating defective
    software...
     
    neil, Feb 16, 2008
    #41
  2. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Were already there, Neil. The big question is will SolidWorks ever fix
    what's broken and give the user easy and full control over parts and
    assemblies or will another program like SpaceClaim emerge as a viable
    alternative to those of us (a minority) who want full control. BTW,
    Neil this problem exists in most CAM programs as well. Control over
    the toolpath as been sacrificed for ease of use and automation and
    almost all CAM users have accepted it with very few exceptions.

    http://paulsalvador.blogspot.com/

    "Majority rules, 80-90% of the users come from using inexpensive,
    inferior and poorly managed design tools. Most of the user base do not
    fully use the tool or use very little of the functionality, thus, the
    more involved functionality is typically overlooked, poorly critiqued
    or supported. Majority of the users expectations on quality are very
    low or the need for reliable software is average. Many of the users
    come from using past tools with limited functionality, they become use
    to or complacent with working around limitations. Workarounds, due to
    limitations, have a "at a boy" or a accomplishment related
    mentality,.. this is, it becomes an accepted part of the job when
    using the software. Majority of the users do NOT pay for the
    software,.. they are not committed to the software investment or it's
    future.
    Majority of the users DO NOT report problems, why would they, it's not
    their problem, they get paid regardless."

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 16, 2008
    #42
  3. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    Not for jb it seems.
    How odd. Poor jb never whined about that.
    You'd have to actually have & use the software first.
    Then try to do more than making one hole in a block.

    Feature creep, AKA featuritis. Old technical problem.
    Also never noted by clueless (a non-user).
     
    Cliff, Feb 16, 2008
    #43
  4. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    Somebody asked for & wanted/needed those new features.
    One feature may make another set of features problematic
    not well-considered in the initial scope of the initial software's
    design.
     
    Cliff, Feb 16, 2008
    #44
  5. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.

    You're erroneously presupposing that you are correct.

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

    Non sequitur.


    Irrelevant.
     
    Cliff, Feb 16, 2008
    #45
  6. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    He'd have to understand them first.
    Did you try talking cluelessly in copied buzzwords & acting psychotic?
     
    Cliff, Feb 16, 2008
    #46
  7. devlin

    Joe788 Guest

    How is anybody supposed to keep track of where you work? You've had
    what, 3 different jobs in the last 12 months? More?

    Oh, I forgot that posting replies to somebodies blog is considered
    being "published" in the insane CAD Jihad world of Jonnie Bonkers:

    http://blog.novedge.com/2007/07/an-interview-wi.html#comments

    "UPDATE -- July 8, 2007 -- I had to close this blog post to further
    comments and to remove the personal attacks between Jon and some other
    newsgroups readers. Before the interview, I made an agreement with Jon
    about the style of the interview and the way to handle it. Jon didn't
    respect our agreement, posting comments under fake names. Jon's
    authentic and fake comments are all posted from the same IP address,
    72.199.251.224. I can now see that my trust in Jon was misplaced. "
     
    Joe788, Feb 16, 2008
    #47
  8. devlin

    Joe788 Guest

    Do you have any actual complaints of your own?
     
    Joe788, Feb 16, 2008
    #48
  9. devlin

    Joe788 Guest

    That's pretty much my biggest complaint. I'm using 08 on an Alienware
    computer with Vista. It's the first time I've tried to use SW with
    Vista. Yes it works. And yes, it randomly just closes/crashes out of
    nowhere at least once every time I use it. It's really not that big a
    problem for me, I just save more often. But there's just something
    unsatisfying about having a brand new high power computer, brand new
    OS, and a brand new software release, that combine to make a package
    that is slower, takes longer to load, and crashes more often than
    anything that came before it.
     
    Joe788, Feb 16, 2008
    #49
  10. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Do you have any actual complaints of your own?

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 16, 2008
    #50
  11. devlin

    gk Guest

    Better get back on whatever you are supposed to be taking Jonnie. The
    post you replied to (with your usual aimless babbling) was from you old
    pal Joe788, not Brewer. Otherwise, I guess your reading impairment
    problem is showing again.

    gk
     
    gk, Feb 16, 2008
    #51
  12. devlin

    Joe788 Guest

    What does any of that have to do with YOUR lack of any original
    response? Every complaint you've listed in this topic is a copy/paste
    from somebody else. You've become too lazy to even <pretend> to have
    valid complaints. Do you even use SW08?
     
    Joe788, Feb 16, 2008
    #52
  13. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    I better get back on whatever I'm supposed to be taking. The
    Now it's correct Nuts son.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego,CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 16, 2008
    #53
  14. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    My mother works on the corner of Center Street and 5th.

    Now it's correct, Madcowman.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, Ca
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 17, 2008
    #54
  15. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Wow, is that a description of all the sheep that I've been with?

    Now it's correct Madcowman.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego,CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 17, 2008
    #55
  16. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Yeah, I've worked on at least 3 different corners, holding three
    Now it's correct, Madcowman.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego,CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 17, 2008
    #56
  17. devlin

    j Guest

    I think it's more like the realm of all US politicians rather than just
    one party or the other.
     
    j, Feb 18, 2008
    #57
  18. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    In all my years of watching poor clueless whine I've never
    come to the conclusion that he's EVER used any CAD,
    CAD/CAM or CAM software for anything himself. He only copies
    from the "complaints" of others, usually clueless newbies that
    are just learning about how to use something and are confused.
    Plus, the latest ad or blurb is ALWAYS better than sliced bread,
    even though he clearly could not comprehend what it was about.

    But he can be counted on for clueless humor <G>.
     
    Cliff, Feb 18, 2008
    #58
  19. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    Found any more free pizza & sales lit to take?
     
    Cliff, Feb 18, 2008
    #59
  20. devlin

    Cliff Guest

    "Rumour has it that the more intrepid Wingers have finally discovered
    two new uses for sheep. Meat and wool."
     
    Cliff, Feb 18, 2008
    #60
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