Quality of Software - Survey

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by devlin, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Unlike you Jon, I use the software on a daily basis in a production
    Where do I work? Who do I work for? You have no clue what I do or
    don't do, Brewer. Like your hero and mentor Cliffy Huprich all you can
    do is lie.
    Brewer you're no expert at SolidWorks. You're help is often so bad
    that posters you tried to help e-mailed me because you couldn't
    explain the simplest concept without confusing them. Your comments on
    SolidWorks have never been published by anyone because you simple have
    nothing of value / worthwhile to say.

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 14, 2008
    #21
  2. devlin

    brewertr Guest

    You lost?
    Some SOB (Son Of Boss) who never had a real job other than working for
    his dad, no experience, no education in CAD or CAM or CAD/CAM that
    bought into your clueless line of BS.

    I have never seen middle ground with SOB's, they are great or
    terrible. Great SOB's are trained well, from the ground up, education
    and work experience. Or they are like your's, given everything and
    earned nothing, an absolute disaster, no training, education or
    talent. The one that hired you will most likely bankrupt the company
    if left alone and not closely supervised by his dad.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Feb 14, 2008
    #22
  3. devlin

    brewertr Guest

    LOL...........

    Please post specific examples to support your claim.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Feb 14, 2008
    #23
  4. devlin

    jon_banqueer Guest

    Where do I work? Who do I work for? I pretend that I know what I do
    but my enployer soon discover the truth and I am again out the door,
    do, Brewer. Cliff Huprich also has shown repeatedly that all I can
    do is lie. Most of the time I am unemployed. I wouldn't dare
    reveal either my present or past employers (and there have been
    many).
    Brewer, I'm no expert at SolidWorks. My help is often so bad that
    posters I tried to help e-mailed you because I couldn't explain the
    simplest concept without confusing them. My comments on
    SolidWorks have never been published by anyone because I simply
    have nothing of value / worthwhile to say. Does "being published"
    mean leaving my comments on a blog? (I think it does.)

    Irrelevant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said.  There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so".   She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO.  I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." ... a Tom Brewer statement from years ago (but I pretend
    it
    is relevent).

    Irrelevant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/or need."... Tom Brewer follows his own advice.
    See above.

    Intelligent:

    Tom Brewer knowing he and his pals like Joe788 can show that I
    lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for doing so.

    Irrelevant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot,  not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    that once, many years ago, he made a mistake. (His only real
    mistake was admitting it to me.)

    Intelligent:

    Someone who has a proven track record of being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's intelligent or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Intelligent:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet knows there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's intelligent or should we say
    that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Intelligent:

    Someone who criticizes me on SolidWorks but has helped everyone
    else with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling but chose not to. Someone who has not posted models they
    have done because there was no need to...
    now that's intelligent or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Intelligent:

    Tom Brewer understands who Matt Lombard really is. I
    don't.

    Intelligent:

    Tom Brewer's able to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate,  ...."

    Intelligent:

    Someone who understands that more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment is not always necessary ... now that's
    intelligent or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Intelligent:

    Tom Brewer implies that because I didn't know that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course did that now somehow I am an idiot and got screwed when
    I decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course. He would be
    right again.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant  $40.00 per hour for two weeks. It
    turned out to be a very economical way of getting one-on-one
    training."

    "FYI,  when I said "Solid modeling"  in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself.   Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no serious interface problems
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer knows SmartCAM does indeed have
    some interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form.  I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way),  I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer knows he's proficient with SolidWorks. A proficient
    SolidWorks
    user is someone who shows that I know very little about Solidworks
    (and
    almost nothing about everything else).

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banqueer, Feb 14, 2008
    #24
  5. devlin

    brewertr Guest


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    OS Noir
    Frank Booth, jr
    dominantjon
    Mr.X
    jbtech
    Clinton Upyers
    Haywood Jablowme
    Normand Blais


    jon banquer


    Brian Winters
    Johnny Stevenson
    Joe789
    J0e788
    Former Heavy Industries Employee,
    donl517
    James Jessup

    Troll Killer


    Jon,

    Which one of your personalities didn't understand?

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Feb 14, 2008
    #25
  6. Nice list, Don. I think we need to have lists like this when we get a
    chance to talk to people from SWC. When they've got thousands of bugs, they
    need a way to prioritize them. Getting hate lists from some representative
    customers ought to help. My problem is that I forget the problems I've been
    having and end up mumbling vague generalities. Here are the ones I can think
    of right now:

    1) Why do mates decide to flip? What idiot came up with the automagic repair
    that seems to always pick the wrong stuff to change?

    2) Why do fillets break when I've made some change on the opposite end of
    the part that doesn't share any faces?

    3) Why do mutual trims change selections when I make some upstream change?
    Why do they sometimes fail when they worked before? Why do they sometimes
    work if I reselect exactly the same way? Why do I sometimes have to delete
    them and redo them in exactly the same way to get them to work?

    4) Why does the Feature Scope lose bodies?

    Jerry Steiger
     
    Jerry Steiger, Feb 14, 2008
    #26
  7. It's interesting that Jeff Ray mentioned some very high number (100-200
    sticks in my mind) of customer visits that he made in the last year. Is he a
    slow learner? Do people lower down the ladder cherry pick the customers he
    visits? Do customers feel that speaking out about issues would be rude?

    I know, from talking to people at SWC, that they make a fair number of
    customer visits. Why doesn't our pain get through to the people writing
    code? I suspect that a good part of the reason is that there isn't a
    mechanism to move that information and prioritize it. Perhaps SWC people
    visiting customers need to have a method for finding out what our worst
    issues are and how we would rank them, then a method of combining them all,
    like enhancement requests.

    Jerry Steiger
     
    Jerry Steiger, Feb 14, 2008
    #27
  8. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Please post specific examples to support your claim.

    Please post specific information of who I work for to back up you
    lies, Brewer.

    It's no accident that you can't name any specific problems with
    SolidWorks and have never had anything you have ever had to say about
    CAD or CAM published in industry standards like UpFronteZine. The
    reason why is you're a fucking moron who has no idea what CADCAM
    software products lack. You pretend to be a SolidWorks expert but the
    reality is you're a blow hard with nothing specific or concrete to
    say.


    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 15, 2008
    #28
  9. devlin

    brewertr Guest

    Jon,

    Another Banquerism, you make wild accusations then when called on to
    post examples or source material for your claims can't/won't because
    you made it up.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Feb 15, 2008
    #29
  10. devlin

    brewertr Guest

    What lies Jon?

    How can I answer when you won't specify what you're talking about?

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Feb 15, 2008
    #30
  11. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Another Brewerism, I make wild accusations then when called on to
    Now it's correct you lying scumbag.

    Where do I work? Who do I work for?

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 15, 2008
    #31
  12. devlin

    gk Guest

    Jonnie, you pussy, quit babbling and tell us who you work for. You
    might also tell us where you really live.

    gk
     
    gk, Feb 15, 2008
    #32
  13. devlin

    brewertr Guest

    If you are sincere & post specific problems you are having an
    experienced user will help you, they help beginners all the time.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Feb 15, 2008
    #33
  14. devlin

    brewertr Guest

    No Jon, its a forgery, that makes YOU the lying scumbag.
     
    brewertr, Feb 15, 2008
    #34
  15. devlin

    j Guest

    That sounds like most politicians. They tell you they'll do this to get
    your vote and then once elected do totally the opposite. The only time
    they did what they said was the governer of PA said he would raise taxes
    when elected AND THEY'RE STILL GOING UP.
     
    j, Feb 15, 2008
    #35
  16. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Jon, I admit it. I'm a pussy and a stalker. All I do is babble like the useless idiot I truly am.
    Now it's correct Nuts son.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 16, 2008
    #36
  17. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    "Jon, I'm a fake and a stalker. That makes ME the lying scumbag. I
    have never posted a specific suggestions for improving SolidWorks
    beyond obvious generalities."

    Now it's correct, scumbag.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 16, 2008
    #37
  18. devlin

    gk Guest

    Jonnie, you only forged my post. I guess you were too much of a pussy
    to answer the questions. (No surprise there).

    gk
     
    gk, Feb 16, 2008
    #38
  19. devlin

    TOP Guest

    As one of the Three Amigos that trekked to Concord in August of 2001 I
    can say that the receptiveness of the management to this forum has
    seemed to have gotten worse since then. Now it is abundantly clear to
    experienced users that SW is buggier and slower than ever. However,
    SWx appeal now is to a different audience than it had five or ten
    years ago. SW is selling more and more to management types in multiple
    seat sales where in the early days it sold to single seat users quite
    a bit. Bugs or no bugs, SW is easy to learn and slowness is masked by
    many new users with low expectations. And lest we forget, SW is a
    company that is in business to make a profit. Profit comes by selling.
    It would be hard to imagine SW selling itself as the software that has
    been 4% slower with each new release ten years running.

    Second, I have seen people use SW for years, suffering with various
    problems either due to lack of knowledge of what the software could do
    or unaware of proper procedures. They suffer without complaint. In
    short, many people will simply refuse to complain due to lack of
    awareness or a willingness to make waves.

    Third, SW has shifted where it gets input. Most of its input sources
    are now managed. This forum has been decimated by SW own forums, the
    blogosphere and other tamer forums. SW creates and manages focus
    groups. SW has hired away many of the top guns that used to populate
    the newsgroup. So while this newsgroup remains the only truly free
    forum, many of the heavy hitters have moved on elsewhere.

    I will also say this. I have seen installations where SW has taken off
    and been used quite successfully and other installations where it has
    in all honesty flopped. While SW is easy to learn, it still takes some
    doing to get it to work well and this knowledge is not necessarily
    common or easy to come by. The choices people make, and SW provides
    many choices, largely determine the user experience in any particular
    application. VARs certainly can greatly influence this side of things
    and SW seems to have greatly improved the quality of VARs, at least in
    my area.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Feb 16, 2008
    #39
  20. devlin

    jon_banquer Guest

    Jon, I only forged my own post. I guess I'm too stupid
    Now it's correct Nuts son.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 16, 2008
    #40
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