proper way to mirror an assy

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by bob zee, Jul 15, 2003.

  1. bob zee

    bob zee Guest

    bob z. needs a little advice. bob z. has a friend. you see, his friend has
    this problem. no, no, it's not bob z. it's his friend. his friend was
    wondering if you have this sore hand and your vision is going...
    :~)>

    back to the real issue.
    what is the best way to mirror an assy that has the following specs:
    Total number of components: 160
    Parts: 140
    Unique parts: 33
    Sub-assemblies 20
    Unique sub-assemblies 9

    as you can see, this ass'y isn't terribly large. how would you guys (and/or
    gals) go about making a complete mirror of this? bob z. has to do this
    quite often and it just never turns out real well.

    thanks in advance. you guys rock.

    --
    bob z.

    p.s.

    I strip away the old debris
    That hides a shining car
    A brilliant Red Barchetta
    From a better vanished time
    We'll fire up the willing engine
    Responding with a roar
    Tires spitting gravel
    I commit my weekly crime

    "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
    everyday"©
     
    bob zee, Jul 15, 2003
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  2. bob zee

    Merry Owen Guest

    Bob,

    Is it possible to pattern it instead of mirroring it? Sometimes I can get
    away with a 180 deg circular pattern - the advantage is that I don't have to
    re-create the mates.

    If you really have to create a mirrored assembly (complete with mirrored
    parts no doubt) then I hope you have better luck than I normally do.

    Merry :)
     
    Merry Owen, Jul 15, 2003
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  3. a macro can do it.
    1) mirror all parts and place/orient them at their symmetric position
    ("easy" for XY, XZ or YZ sym. plane )
    2) re-create all mates... ("hard" : is it really needed ?)
    I'd say 1 to 3 days work... how much would bob.z's friend pay ?
     
    Philippe Guglielmetti, Jul 15, 2003
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  4. bob zee

    bob zee Guest

    what is the going rate? bob z. currently does a combination of items 1 and
    2. not very 'user-friendly'.
    --
    bob z.
    p.s.

    "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
    everyday"©
     
    bob zee, Jul 15, 2003
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    Ben Guest

    I do a mirror of sheet metal parts and the mirror does not work at all. the
    orientation of the individual parts in the assembly end up looking like
    someone threw them past the mirror plane like so many dice...

    Ben
     
    Ben, Jul 15, 2003
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  6. bob zee

    bob zee Guest

    that is exactly what bob z. is seein' right now...
    hmm...
    --
    bob z.
    p.s.

    "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
    everyday"©
     
    bob zee, Jul 15, 2003
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    Krister L Guest

    Bob....(or his friend)+

    If You don't need to mirror parts......just do a 180° cirkular pattern
    instead ....works terrible well most of the time....otherwise I suffer with
    You ... to mirror an assy is not one of the strongest features in SW

    Krister
     
    Krister L, Jul 15, 2003
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    Deri Jones Guest

    Bob
    Are you ticking the box that says "L and R hand versions" (something like
    this - SW is on the other machine so can't check exact wording)? I get the
    random parts generator effect otherwise...
    Also, do you find the parts just not mirroring at all (mirror part created,
    but empty?) I sometimes get this and only solution I have found is to save
    and close the assembly, close Solidworks, restart SW, open assembly and
    carry out mirror and it seems to work first go..... I guess another SW
    "charming period feature" (to quote a property salesman!)

    I quite often mirror assemblies - maybe two sub assemblies containing say 20
    parts each without hassle (create one side of boat and then mirror!).
    best of luck
    Deri
     
    Deri Jones, Jul 16, 2003
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  9. A pet peeve of mine for years. They dangle a potentially great process in
    front of us, but never get it working.
    Subassemblies rarely work with mates enabled. Parts fly everywhere.

    You can sometimes get things to hang together without mates and then edit
    the mirrored sub, and fix all the components.
    The mirrored sub won't update when you later change the original, but then
    it wouldn't have with mates either.

    A functional mirror copy would be an extremely valuable feature for me ...
    more valuable than
    all the new features combined from the last several major releases. But I
    suspect that they (swx) are
    simply stumped on getting it to work, and they have given up. You never
    hear a peep
    out of them on the subject.

    But we have lots of great graphical screen gimmicks :)




    venting disengaged ....
    bill
     
    bill allemann, Jul 17, 2003
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  10. bob zee

    bob zee Guest

    yes, i believe this would be incredibly useful! oops, bob z. said 'i'
    again. oh well...
    :~)>

    oh yeah, question #2 - mirrored assy's do indeed explode. really makes
    quite a mess!
    --
    bob z.
    p.s.

    "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
    everyday"©
     
    bob zee, Jul 17, 2003
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