Proe <> PRODESKTOP...

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by meld_b, Aug 6, 2003.

  1. meld_b

    meld_b Guest

    Hello - Can anyone tell me what the compatibility between Pro/E Wildfire
    and PRO/DESKTOP is? Isn't ProDesktop what is left of ComputerVision? So
    can I build an assembly in Pro/E and view it in PD? There seems to be a
    free download of PD can you do much with that? It would seem like it
    would have to be pretty limited.

    Thanks,
    Dan
     
    meld_b, Aug 6, 2003
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    Doug Guest

    Pro Desktop is actually quite a good program. The files can be read directly
    by Pro/E. It started as Design Wave and changed to Pro Desktop and became
    compatible with Pro/E. The free download is almost a full program with
    things like rendering left out.

    It is definitely not a leftover from Computervision. I was a Personal
    Designer user from revision 1 and moved to PTC when Computervision was
    bought out as a beta tester for Design Wave

    Personal Designer was dropped by PTC (which I always thought was a mistake
    since it was better than AutoCAD) and they tried a new product called Design
    Post which was a disaster and lasted for about 6 months.

    Doug
     
    Doug, Aug 6, 2003
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    meld_b Guest

    Thanks! good to know the history! So what happened to ComputerVision?
    PTC did buy that right? There must have been something PTC wanted there.

    So the free download is 3D? can you go the other way, draw in PD and
    then transfer to Pro/E? ... now that I'm thinking about it ... Isn't
    there a free viewer for Pro/E?

    -Dan
     
    meld_b, Aug 6, 2003
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    David Janes Guest

    : Hello - Can anyone tell me what the compatibility between Pro/E Wildfire
    : and PRO/DESKTOP is?

    PD can open Pro/e files, IGES, STEP, DXF and several other file formats. You can
    make parts and assemblies and drawings in PD, basic stuff with object/action
    functionality that's similar to SW. In PD assemblies, you can freely mix PD and
    Pro/e parts. It just added the ability to import surface models or models with
    surfaces in them ~ Pro/e, IGES, STEP, etc. File handling is good, all Windows GUI
    operation, and graphics are spectacular. They have a translucent view (like Pro/e
    hidden lines) that you need to see to believe. Plus, Pro/e just adopted PD's key
    combo for spin/pan/zoom. Now they work the same. It's the kind of software you
    wish would be bundled on every Dell computer sold and give everyone, kids
    included, an experience with solid modelling.

    It also has features that are unavailable or undeveloped in Pro/e, like a pretty
    nice album feature that would be good for engineering notebooks, product
    catalogues or assembly instruction booklets.

    The free download of the Express version comes with tutorials to get you started.
    It's worth trying out. And with completely painless installation, don't see what's
    to lose.

    : Isn't ProDesktop what is left of ComputerVision?

    No, CADDS5 is what is left of CV. Pro/DESKTOP was bought out by PTC in the middle
    90s. It used to be called something else, don't remember the name, but not
    connected to CV.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Aug 6, 2003
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    David Janes Guest

    : <snip> ... now that I'm thinking about it ... Isn't
    : there a free viewer for Pro/E?
    :
    Yes, believe it or not, there's actually several free versions of PTC software for
    download from PTC.COM The one you're thinking of is ProductView, the Express
    version. It can view any Pro/e parts and assemblies (even SE parts) and to my
    knowledge, is not release sensitive (possibly if you go back far enough, not
    sure).

    Thanks, Doug, for clarifying the PD history. Couldn't remember Design Wave's name.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Aug 6, 2003
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    Rog Guest

    Design Wave was a product created by a French company (I think). PTC bought
    that company, and re-badged (which is the reason difference in interfaces)
    it to Pro/Desktop to compete at the Solidworks level. Since then its kernel
    has been updated to 'Granite' which brings the Pro/E compatibility and Pro/E
    has gained some of it's intelligent selection capabilities.

    As for computervision. My understanding is that CADDS5 / Optegra are still
    in existance because there are some major customers ('000's of licences)
    using the software who are not yet prepared to transfer to another system.
    It was supposed to die at approx rev 8 or 9 I think.

    What is really interesting is that the people who set up PTC did so when
    they left Computervision. A number of programmers etc had an idea of what
    CADDS should become but were prevented from doing so when at Computervision,
    and hence went their own way.
     
    Rog, Aug 7, 2003
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    jon_banquer Guest

    I believe that CV Designwave was about 3-5 years ahead of its time

    I beta tested it. I didn't think so. Neither it seems did anyone else.
    What it did have was a good start and great potential.
    That it did have.

    jon
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 10, 2003
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