ProE or should I say Wirefire is not to Hot

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by Daniel B. Nordeen, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. It's too Late Bay Now it's Too Late Though you really did try an make
    it.
    WildFire has been caught in a torential downpour of SolidWorks users.
    On 35% conversion rate from ProE. Sounds like what come around goes
    around huh?

    Maybe PTC should have been more interested in customer's complaints
    instead of their stock price. I am glad to demo ProE accounts because
    after 7 years of it I can tear holes in anything they can do. Just
    had a demo for 12 people who called us to relieve them of their agony
    from the Wildfire conversion.
     
    Daniel B. Nordeen, Nov 18, 2003
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  2. Daniel B. Nordeen

    jon banquer Guest

    "WildFire has been caught in a torential downpour of
    SolidWorks users. On 35% conversion rate from ProE. Sounds
    like what come around goes around huh?"

    I guess that 35% conversion rate does not include those that
    need the powerful surfacing that SolidWorks so badly lacks.

    Did that 35% also like the spline control better in
    SolidWorks ? I have yet to see one post from someone who
    thinks that SolidWorks does a good job with splines. Why do
    you think this is ?

    "Maybe PTC should have been more interested in customer's
    complaints instead of their stock price."

    Maybe SolidWorks Corp. will be more interested when more
    mid-priced modelers become available in the second quarter
    of next year that make SolidWorks surfacing look like the
    bad joke it is.

    "I am glad to demo ProE accounts because after 7 years of it
    I can tear holes in anything they can do."

    How do you bullshit them when it comes to having the proper
    curvature and tangency control or do you only demo to those
    designing products that don't need a decent level of
    curvature and tangency control ?

    "Just had a demo for 12 people who called us to relieve them
    of their agony from the Wildfire conversion."

    Acme Solid Block Company ?

    jon
     
    jon banquer, Nov 18, 2003
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  3. Daniel B. Nordeen

    S.T. Guest

    Daniel,

    I am very impressed with your computer skills after reading your post. My
    suggestion is that you write the code for a new MCAD package on your lunch
    hour that will "tear holes in anything" Pro/E OR SolidWorks can do!!! Then I
    will REALLY be impressed by you.

    S.T.
     
    S.T., Nov 18, 2003
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    Pete Guest

    Are all Solidworks salesmen as literate as you are? God help Dassault.
     
    Pete, Nov 19, 2003
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    Rocko Guest

    I think the main issue for PTC users is whether the company can continue
     
    Rocko, Nov 19, 2003
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  6. Sorry to enflame every ProE guy out there.

    You are right you should not bash your competition. I do point out
    the differences though so they can be identified.

    ProE does have useful tools but most people do not have the time to
    learn it to that depth or the pay for the in intial cost and yearly
    maintenance. I liked it until I learned how much more fun SolidWorks
    is to use on daily basis.

    Here are some business related issues with PTC which indicate serious
    problems for their future.

    Article #1
    When it rains, it pours
    November 13, 2003 -- On October 20, U.S. District Court judge Morris
    Lasker refused to dismiss 11 of the 13 claims by Rand Worldwide
    (Toronto exchange symbol: RND.TO) in a $100 million lawsuit against
    Parametric Technology Corporation (Nasdaq symbol: PMTC). Rand's
    complaint, filed on May 30, 2003, charges PTC with fraud, breach of
    contract, unfair and deceptive trade practices, false advertising,
    injurious falsehood, interference with customer contractual relations,
    unfair competition, and misappropriation of confidential and
    proprietary information.

    Article #2
    Parametric woes continue as its rivals race ahead
    By Scott Kirsner, 11/17/2003

    Compare that to Dick Harrison, chief executive of Parametric
    Technology Corp., in Needham. In October, after Harrison's company,
    Massachusetts' biggest stand-alone software firm, wrapped up its worst
    year ever, losing almost $100 million, Harrison's quote in the press
    release began, "We were pleased with our execution this quarter, as we
    met our revenue targets while implementing an aggressive cost
    reduction program." Quarterly losses were $38 million.
     
    Daniel B. Nordeen, Nov 20, 2003
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    JJ Guest

    Customer base. I believe PTC still has the largest market share.
     
    JJ, Nov 20, 2003
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