Product activation in AutoCAD 2005

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Cy Shuster, Feb 18, 2004.

  1. Cy Shuster

    Cy Shuster Guest

    AutoCAD 2005 was announced today (see www.autodesk.com). It will include
    product activation technology, which has caused much speculation. To head
    off the flurry of questions that is growing in other groups, please read the
    FAQs here before posting your questions:

    http://www.autodesk.com/activation

    This primarily affects the standalone license rather than the network
    license, but I thought this info would be of interest to readers of this
    group.

    --Cy--
     
    Cy Shuster, Feb 18, 2004
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    Klinn Guest

    The Product Activation Questions & Answers PDF states that the activation process used will "safely write its license data to an unused sectior of the drive located in track zero."

    If this is outside of the normal file system, what is the chance that some other specialized protection scheme will also try this trick? Could they interfere with each other? Or could a disk utility such as Partition Magic cause problems?

    Isn't this the same protection method that was attempted by Intuit last year for TurboTax? I seem to recall a great hue & cry about the problems it caused. (ExtremeTech.com had coverage of it) Ultimately I believe they had to back off using that method.

    ...Klinn
     
    Klinn, Feb 18, 2004
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  3. Cy Shuster

    Jussi Guest

    What about network versions then?
    How do you activate nls versions?

    Jussi
     
    Jussi, Feb 18, 2004
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  4. You don't. Activation only applies to Stand-Alone installation.

    If you have more than three seats, you should be running network installs
    anyway, it's just that much more efficient to setup at the get-go.

    --
    James Wedding, P.E.
    IT Manager
    Jones & Boyd, Inc.
    Dallas, TX
    XP/1 on P4-1.6/512
    LDT2004+C3D
     
    James Wedding, Feb 18, 2004
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  5. Let me rephrase this a hair. If you are running a Network install of
    Stand-Alone licensing, my understanding is that you Authorize during the NIW
    process. That way you don't have to do it individually across your firm.

    I don't use SA installs at all, so I'm sure someone else can speak better,
    but that's my understanding.

    --
    James Wedding, P.E.
    IT Manager
    Jones & Boyd, Inc.
    Dallas, TX
    XP/1 on P4-1.6/512
    LDT2004+C3D
     
    James Wedding, Feb 18, 2004
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  6. The activation to get a license file for networked licenses is greately
    improved. You do it directly over internet or by email. It's simple, fast
    and great!

    --
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    More on AutoCAD 2005;
    www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm
     
    Jimmy Bergmark, Feb 18, 2004
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  7. Cy Shuster

    jerry milana Guest

    If you use the NIW to create a Standalone Licensed deployment then each
    workstation needs to be individually activated. If you have a multi-seat
    stand alone license then the activation will occur at the workstations
    automatically based on the registration information entered using the NIW so
    long as the workstations have Internet access. If you wish to do this and
    currently have lots of individual standalone licenses, check with your
    dealer about getting them exchanged for a single multi-seat license when you
    upgrade to 2005.
     
    jerry milana, Feb 18, 2004
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  8. Cy Shuster

    Cy Shuster Guest

    A very reasonable question. All of this has been worked out through
    extensive testing and coordination with Symantec and other vendors. This
    has been deployed worldwide for more than three years now. A few problems
    surfaced at first, and were taken care of. Partition Magic works fine, as
    does Windows XP, which also uses activation.

    --Cy--

    process used will "safely write its license data to an unused sectior of the
    drive located in track zero."
    other specialized protection scheme will also try this trick? Could they
    interfere with each other? Or could a disk utility such as Partition Magic
    cause problems?
     
    Cy Shuster, Feb 19, 2004
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  9. Cy Shuster

    Cy Shuster Guest

    Oh, and with respect to TurboTax, that was the first year of their
    implementation, and with all due respect, they had a long way to go to come
    up to speed with activation. You don't just plug it into a product; you
    have to integrate it with your entire back end systems as well, for
    authorization. At Autodesk, we wrote our own entire registration system for
    connecting to the back end. We also did a great deal of training for
    support people around the world, and rolled it out slowly to build
    experience and test for things like interaction with low level utilities.
    There is detailed error logging and other built-in help to diagnose
    intermittent or non-reproduceable problems.

    The ExtremeTech article was riddled with errors, such as confusing SafeCast
    with SafeDisc (both from Macrovision), and generally whipping up unfounded
    hysteria. There was never a big outcry that Partition Magic or Symantec
    utilities accessed the disk directly; why suddenly attack these products?

    --Cy--
     
    Cy Shuster, Feb 19, 2004
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    Ceddy Guest

    Yes, they even issued a public apology. I believe there's still
    something of a backlash against them this tax season. A lot of people
    in the ngs I read regularly seem to be opting for web-based services
    such as Taxbrain.
     
    Ceddy, Feb 19, 2004
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    Rainbow Guest

    I know this is a bit off the subject but has anyone had problems with activation codes getting lost on stand alone installation? I'll get the sofware activated and a few weeks later the activation is no longer valid. The request code has changed and is looking for a new activation code.

    Any help with this would be appreciated.
    Rainbow
     
    Rainbow, Oct 25, 2004
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  12. Not sure why your activation is no longer valid, but the simple solution is
    to re-activate your product.

    regards,
    Efim
     
    Efim Tetelman \(Autodesk, Inc\), Oct 25, 2004
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