Pro-E on Apple

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by ddekker, Jun 28, 2004.

  1. ddekker

    ddekker Guest

    has anyone heard anything on Pro running on Apple OSX? being as its a BSD
    Unix core I would think it shouldn't be much of a jump to get it there.....
    the dual Processor G5 is a pretty powerful machine and the Unix core OS is
    very stable... not that I'm an apple fan, but it sure makes more sense than
    supporting Linux being as there are 40 flavors of Linux and only one of
    apple...
     
    ddekker, Jun 28, 2004
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  2. ddekker

    meld_b Guest

    No no no... PTC's the one making the decision here. I'm sure Apple would
    love to have a heavy-weight player like PTC in their world. I would
    think from PTC's perspective it's all about sufficient market. Same with
    Unigraphics... if EDS (did they spin this off?) thought porting to OSX
    was profitable I'll bet they'd have already done it.

    Still, PTC was one of the first major CAD/CAE packages on Linux, so it's
    logical they might be follow onto the Mac. Seems like the UNIX core is
    only a piece of it. To get the gui ported there would involve quite a
    bit of new code for the Apple unique stuff. Of course, I'm a fair ways
    out of my league here.

    -meld
     
    meld_b, Jun 29, 2004
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  3. ddekker

    Guest Guest

    There is an Xserver for OSX so any app written for the X-window System
    should be fine. Though I suppose that performance would be better if
    stuff was coded specifically for OSX.

    Getting Pro/E running on OSX should be trivial to PTC. Getting a highly
    optimized version that matches up with Apple's GUI would be much more
    work.

    I wonder if PTC bothers to optimize any of their products for specific
    platforms.

    Regards,
     
    Guest, Jun 29, 2004
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  4. ddekker

    Walther Guest

    guess PTC is bribed by M$ _not_ to do anything in that direction.

    ProE was on a lot of UNIXes in the past but nowadays like anything
    it has become more and more "design(at)ed for windows". Sigh.
     
    Walther, Jun 29, 2004
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  5. ddekker

    anon Guest

    Apple uses both Pro/E and UG these days. I'm sure they'd love to have
    both running on the Mac, just so their engineers could design using
    their own hardware. They've stuck with UNIX because it takes months to
    get a req for a Windows machine approved.
     
    anon, Jul 1, 2004
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  6. ddekker

    David Janes Guest

    :
    : guess PTC is bribed by M$ _not_ to do anything in that direction.

    It may not be quite that bad. PTC last year issued a verion of Pro/CONCEPT for
    OSX, in addition to the other systems supported. It's entry into the Mac world was
    modest and unheralded but it's still got a foot in the door. What their intentions
    are is anyone's guess. It'll be a year after they've actually *done* it that
    you'll find out about it, they're so secretive.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Jul 1, 2004
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  7. ddekker

    Paul Gress Guest

    I'd like to add my 2 cents. First, I believe they haven't ported to the
    MacOS X, is they haven't standardized (Apple) on X-Windows. X-Windows
    is the windowing system under various GUI interfaces (Gnome, CDE, KDE,
    etc.). Apple uses their own windowing system. Their drop down menu's
    aren't even attached to the windows. My son has a Mac Laptop, in order
    to run some re-compiled Linux apps, he had to install an X-Windows
    package. Now when he opens up those apps, they at least have the menu's
    attached to the windows. All of PTC's supported Unix Operating Systems
    have X-Windows, including Linux. Even though you can install X-Windows,
    it's not there standard by Apple, therefore basically unsupportable.
    I'd really like to run Pro-E on a Mac computer, so my next choice
    (dream) is on Sun Solaris X86, v10, thats suppose to be binary
    compatible with Linux. Sun better do their job right and get OpenGl
    running on it.

    Paul
     
    Paul Gress, Jul 2, 2004
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  8. ddekker

    David Janes Guest

    : David Janes wrote:
    : > :
    : > : guess PTC is bribed by M$ _not_ to do anything in that direction.
    : >
    : > It may not be quite that bad. PTC last year issued a verion of Pro/CONCEPT for
    : > OSX, in addition to the other systems supported. It's entry into the Mac world
    was
    : > modest and unheralded but it's still got a foot in the door. What their
    intentions
    : > are is anyone's guess. It'll be a year after they've actually *done* it that
    : > you'll find out about it, they're so secretive.
    : >
    : > David Janes
    : >
    : >
    : I'd like to add my 2 cents. First, I believe they haven't ported to the
    : MacOS X, is they haven't standardized (Apple) on X-Windows. X-Windows
    : is the windowing system under various GUI interfaces (Gnome, CDE, KDE,
    : etc.). Apple uses their own windowing system. Their drop down menu's
    : aren't even attached to the windows. My son has a Mac Laptop, in order
    : to run some re-compiled Linux apps, he had to install an X-Windows
    : package. Now when he opens up those apps, they at least have the menu's
    : attached to the windows. All of PTC's supported Unix Operating Systems
    : have X-Windows, including Linux. Even though you can install X-Windows,
    : it's not there standard by Apple, therefore basically unsupportable.
    : I'd really like to run Pro-E on a Mac computer, so my next choice
    : (dream) is on Sun Solaris X86, v10, thats suppose to be binary
    : compatible with Linux. Sun better do their job right and get OpenGl
    : running on it.
    :

    Don't know how it runs, what magic they use, but here is PTC's press release from
    its launch at last year's MacWorld:
    http://www.ptc.com/appserver/it/icm...da_text_w_sub.jsp?im_dbkey=11690&icg_dbkey=21

    And further information on Pro/CONCEPT:
    http://www.ptc.com/products/datasheets/proconcept_ds.pdf
     
    David Janes, Jul 2, 2004
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  9. ddekker

    Paul Gress Guest

    Thats all about Pro/Concept. The Mac being based for graphics artist,
    it makes sense. They don't (Macs) have a reputation for running
    engineering software, much less user base. That is basically how it
    looks on the surface.

    I would really consider using a Mac myself, the Dual G5 is really
    impressive. There's no doubt that they can port Pro/E to the Mac, but
    it wouldn't fall in line with any other ports, Windows or X-Windows.

    I have to commend PTC, there aren't many CAD companies porting to
    various platforms, that is one of the many reasons I went to Pro/E. Not
    even SolidWorks is considering this.

    Paul
     
    Paul Gress, Jul 2, 2004
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