Printing very narrow lines

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Johannes Krueger, Jul 15, 2004.

  1. Hello,

    I need to print very narrow lines, i.e. between 10 and 40 microns
    wide, from an AutoCAD drawing. Therefore I've defined a plotstyle
    table and applied the styles to the adjacent layers. I checked the
    "print with plot styles" option in the Autocad print dialog and set
    the Distiller printer to the maximum resolution (4000dpi).

    However, when I print them to a PostScript or PDF file and have a
    close look at it, all the lines seem to be a lot wider, about 200
    microns.

    Is it possible to get lines below 200 microns in a PostScript or PDF
    file at all?

    I'm using Autocad 2002 and Distiller 6.0.1 on Windows XP.

    Thanks for any helpful adivce!


    Regards,
    Johannes
     
    Johannes Krueger, Jul 15, 2004
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  2. Johannes Krueger

    Ralf Koenig Guest

    Yes, in both of them. See the file thinlines.{pdf,ps} here

    http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ralk/latex/pdfthinlines/

    (made with pdfLaTeX) with lines from 1000 microns to 1 micron. Adobe
    Reader 6.0 supports zooming upto 6400%, here's what you need it for. You
    will evt. also see effects of limited screen resolution if you did not
    zoom in enough.

    Remember to disable "Fit to Page" in Acrobat Reader, when printing the PDF.

    Printed to a HP Color LaserJet 4500 (600 dpi), the last "step" is
    between 20 and 10 microns.
    On a HP LaserJet 4M Plus (600 dpi as well) the last step is from 40 to
    30 microns.
    On an old HP LJ 4 ML (300 dpi), the last step is from 75 to 50 microns.

    In all cases, after this "last step" the lines are of equal width in the
    printed result, so all the lines after this step are too thick in
    absolute terms.

    All in all, the 4500 produces the finest lines, comparing the results
    visually.

    Have a look at the specs to get the true minimum. But I guess they did
    not specify one, as there is no theoretical one. Practically however,
    the minimum depends on the resolution of the device to print on. So, do
    the math, e.g. a 10 micron line is about 1 single dot wide on a 2400 dpi
    image setter. From that perspective the 4000 dpi you selected should be
    more than enough to get it right. Nevertheless you will experience
    quantization errors, even in 4000 dpi.

    At 4000 dpi

    40 microns = 6.3 dots is rounded to 6 dots
    30 microns = 4.7 dots is rounded to 5 dots
    20 microns = 3.15 dots is rounded to 3 dots
    10 microns = 1.57 dots is rounded to 2 dots.

    For example, you see the 20 micron line is not double as wide as the 10
    micron line.

    I'm just curios what you need such fine resolution for, do you want to
    prepare masks for semiconductors or what?
    The Distiller might have some option hidden somewhere where you can set
    a minimum line width. And try with another program to see, whether the
    problem is with AutoCAD or Distiller.
    Hope, this helped.

    Ralf
     
    Ralf Koenig, Jul 15, 2004
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