Please end my confusion

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by plasticmoldedproducts, Jun 30, 2007.

  1. Being that most of my experience has been in fabricating and molding
    plastics, I have to admit a serious gap in knowlege regarding "temper"
    of a flat brass metal strip that has to be inserted into one of our
    molded plastic parts. I was always led to believe that it was as a
    result of heat imposed on metal to make it softer. Now i am asked to
    find the brass strip material with a "temper". If someone would be
    kind enough to give me a quick synopsis on it, I am beholding to you.
    David
     
    plasticmoldedproducts, Jun 30, 2007
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  2. David,
    Multiple meanings for a word, especially in the same Industry, can be
    confusing to most anyone.
    The word temper is used in the field of metallurgy, in that when a
    carbon steel is first quenched to be heat treated, it is too hard from
    the quench itself and has to be "tempered", which means that it has to
    be heated to a smaller amount of heat than was used in the initial
    heat treating of it, in order to relax the tightened molecules and
    thereby introduce some ductility into the metal, whereby from the
    quench, some metals can be hard like glass and subject to extreme
    cracking. Tempering is needed to remove this excessive hardness.
    The meaning of temper relative to non precious metals is somewhat
    different.
    Temper is just another word for Hardness of the metal. The most
    popular way to harden non ferrous metals is by compression. This is
    called "work hardening". Whether the metal be steel, brass, aluminum,
    or any of the copper alloys, or even the precious metals, silver and
    gold and their alloys, temper is accomplished by rolling from a
    thicker size down to a thinner one, and by compression of the
    molecular structure of the metal. Temper is measured in "numbers
    hard" denominations; for example 1 number hard would be dead soft, or
    annealed, and 9 numbers hard would be the hardest that the metal can
    be, or "spring temper". Everything in between is done to accommodate
    the particular application. Bottom line is that any method that would
    compress the metal, be it rolling, or hammering the metal from one
    thickness down to a thinner one is called "work hardness", thereby
    imposing "temper" to the material . A paralell to make you visualize
    this better would be : Rolling strip material down from a dead soft
    state of .020" thickness down to .010" may yield a metal that is 2
    numbers hard. Rolling strip material down from a dead soft state of .
    075" thickness down to .010" thickness, may yield metal that is 9
    numbers hard, (spring temper).
    Some metal manufacturers use the terms 1/4 hard, 1/2 hard, 3/4 hard
    etc, in lieu of numbers.
    There are also a few (carbonless) metals that can be hardened by heat-
    treating. Cold roll steel can be heat treated by heat and dipping in
    arsenic, some of the 400 series of Stainless Steels can also be
    hardened by heat and quenching. I am not very familiar with these
    methods. I do know that these methods are usually practiced by
    professional Heat Treaters.
    I hope this helps you somewhat.

    G. De Angelis
    Valhalla Grafix LTD
    (401) 749-1209 www.valhallagrafix.com
     
    G. De Angelis, Jun 30, 2007
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  3. plasticmoldedproducts

    Cliff Guest

    You might want to search out the properties of various "brass" alloys
    at http://www.matweb.com/index.asp?ckck=1 (put brass in the search
    field).
    You are perhaps looking for higherTensile Strength, Yield ?
     
    Cliff, Jul 1, 2007
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  4. plasticmoldedproducts

    Ed Guest

    I have not worked with brass materials for a couple of decades but
    what I remember is that when it is heated, (to an appropriate temp)
    and allowed to cool very slowly that the alloys are allowed to be re-
    absorbed into the copper matrix and thus causes the brass alloy to be
    "harder". While this is not the same mechanism as ferrious heat
    treating, what I remember is that if the heated part is cooled
    rapidly, (ie. quenched) the alloys get trapped in between the grains
    which leaves the brass molecules mostly the same pure copper. Thus
    the characterists will be closer to the Copper properties, (ie. fairly
    soft).

    However, if the brass part is not heated enough to "disolve" the
    alloys from within the grains there should be a very little change in
    the hardness of the material.

    Hope this helps,

    EdT
     
    Ed, Jul 1, 2007
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