My original post disappeared from this newsgroup list. Briefly, my question was - how do I set up the pen table for a PDF plot to enable the black lines to plot last ie. after the coloured lines for better presentation - I believe it can be done. I tried to set up (ACAD R2000) the .cbt pens (or virtual pens) with coloured pens in the 1 - 9 position and the black pens in the 10 - 15 positions - no luck - the black always prints first. Are there any settings that I've overlooked? Help appreciated. Ron