Pdf to dwg utility

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by taiken, May 24, 2007.

  1. taiken

    taiken Guest

    Can anyone recommend a utility that will convert pdf files to dwg. I'm now
    using a trial version of pdf2dwg by Autodwg. It works but the scale is not
    correct after the conversion. I'm sure some of you must use something you
    are content with. Please advise and thanks in advance. Tim
     
    taiken, May 24, 2007
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  2. taiken

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post taiken wrote...
    Let's see, you want to take a print of a drawing (that's what a PDF is)
    and turn it into a properly scaled DWG file?

    And how is the software supposed to know what scale the drawing was
    printed at? And how is the software supposed to know what the layer names
    are and which lines go on which layer?

    There is a for PDF's. That's so people can't "easily" copy the
    information and turn it into a drawing without the original owner's
    permission. If you want a DWG file then call the original owner and ask
    for one.

    --
    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, May 24, 2007
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  3. taiken

    strawberry Guest

    I find this quite a useful thing to be able to do - especially when
    wanting to go back and forth between 3d isometrics and photoshop, for
    instance. A utility within a program called CorelDraw has given me
    superb results in the past - but I can't recall if it's part of the
    main package or an add-on.
     
    strawberry, May 24, 2007
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  4. taiken

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post strawberry wrote...
    It probably works fine for drawings that have printed 1:1, but for
    anything printed to scale like 1/4"=1'-0" the DWG file will never be very
    accurate.

    --
    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, May 24, 2007
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  5. taiken

    Troppo Guest

    I've used Scan2CAD for fairly simple drawings, but found it was easier to
    redraw if the dimensions were labelled.

    The problem is that a PDF is not the same drawing in a different file
    format, but a _representation_ of the drawing.
    You won't be able to recover the accuracy of a map grid, with x,y
    coordinates like 471639.3040,7857914.46777 - because they aren't there any
    more. Same with nurbs,
     
    Troppo, May 24, 2007
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  6. taiken

    taiken Guest

    I downloaded the trial version of that package last evening and like it much
    better than pdf2dwg. I believe I'll spend the money and get it. Thanks for
    all the input. Tim
     
    taiken, May 25, 2007
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  7. taiken

    Troppo Guest

    The PDF printer driver may or may not pick up line weights - depends on
    settings. I prefer to convert to polylines with defined widths - seems to
    be more reliable. Most PDF to DXF/DWG converters I've tried can't convert
    polylines properly; even high end Adobe Illustrator needs widths reduced
    to zero, or it creates a chain of polygons. So I prefer this method to
    prevent people ripping off my stuff :)
     
    Troppo, May 25, 2007
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  8. taiken

    strawberry Guest

    Accuracy schmaccuracy. I'm not trying to make the world more precise -
    just more beautiful. ;-)
     
    strawberry, May 25, 2007
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  9. taiken

    strawberry Guest

    PDF is an output file, which I believe is RASTOR.

    Is this really a question of faith? Why not find out if it is or isn't
    before posting?
     
    strawberry, May 25, 2007
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  10. taiken

    strawberry Guest

    Snipped from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format:

    "A PDF file is often a combination of vector graphics, text, and
    raster graphics."
     
    strawberry, May 25, 2007
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  11. taiken

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post strawberry wrote...
    The key word is "often". It will depend on the software the created the
    PDF in the first place.

    A converted PDF file will NEVER be accurate. NEVER!

    --
    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, May 25, 2007
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  12. taiken

    nrdgrl Guest

    To quell the debate - PDF's can be either vector or raster (objects or
    bitmaps).

    pdf2cad (www.pdf2cad.com) is a tool to convert PDF to DXF (open CAD
    interchange format) which can be opened in AutoCAD and saved as DWG.
    If the files do not convert into CAD objects, the original PDF is
    probably a scanned drawing. pdf2cad is designed to only convert PDF
    files which were generated as scalable files from an application.
    Scanned drawings are reduced to bitmap images. To convert these, you
    need a different class of software called raster-to-vector. An example
    is Scan2CAD (http://www.softcover.com/cgi-bin/at.cgi?a=421325)

    Many people find they need both types of tools. Converting directly
    from a scalable PDF to DXF is ideal since you maintain the geometric
    integrity. However, sometimes the only possibility is to "trace" a
    scanned drawing using raster-to-vector software or even redraw it by
    hand.

    For more information on vector vs. raster files, please see the
    following tips on the Visual Integrity web site:

    Can I convert a scanned PDF into a vector file?
    http://www.visual-integrity.com/TT-scan.htm

    Learn how to tell the difference between raster and vector PDF files
    http://www.visual-integrity.com/scalable-pdf.htm

    If you want to send a sample file so to confirm whether it is a bitmap
    image, please do to . The web link above offers
    some tips on how to do this yourself using the magnifying glass in
    Acrobat.
     
    nrdgrl, May 30, 2007
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