part modelling question

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Knotfreak, May 5, 2005.

  1. Knotfreak

    Knotfreak Guest

    Hello group,

    I was reading the "Undercut Detection" thread started by Matt. I found an
    interesting sheet metal part he had in the same directory as the part
    mentionned in the post. Here is the part in case you would like to take a
    look at it http://www.dezignstuff.com/swparts/FormAcrossBends.zip

    I hope that Matt doesn't mind if I post a link to one of his parts.

    My question is...

    I would lie to do a deformation like this
    http://img120.echo.cx/img120/431/40sj.jpg

    on a lofted sheetmetal outside wrap shown here
    http://img120.echo.cx/img120/1153/19qq1.jpg

    the part is constructed with two 3d splines (bottom and top)

    I'm not sure how to approach this.

    The deformation does not have to visible in the flat pattern.

    Thank you,

    Knotfreak
     
    Knotfreak, May 5, 2005
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  2. Knotfreak

    Brian Guest

    There are probably several better ways to approach this. But here is
    one that I think will get you where you need to be.

    -create a new configuration as performing this will mess up your ability to
    flat pattern the part
    -create a split line on the face on which the form will appear
    -perform two surface offsets of the surface within the split line-one with
    offset of 0
    -one with an offset = the desired form depth
    -cut thicken the 0 offset surface to make a hole through your part
    -surface thicken the other offset ( same as metal thickness)
    -use a loft-thin feature from one perimeter to the other
    -radius as necessary

    Unless you were going to be using the same forming tool in similar
    situations frequently, I think you would have more time invested in trying
    to make it work rather than trying a one-off method.
     
    Brian, May 5, 2005
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  3. Knotfreak

    matt Guest

    If I post stuff on my site, I expect people to take it and use it however
    they want. If it was sensitive info, I wouldn't put it where everybody
    could get it.

    Anyway, here's a crack at it using a different method. SW05 added the
    "Indent" feature which is cool for this sort of thing. It requires a
    little multibody work, but nothing too difficult. I think it's easier than
    the surfacing method the other fellow mentioned.

    I modeled the inside of the deformation as if it were created by a tool.
    You only have to model the punch side, not the coining die because you
    assign a thickness in the Indent tool. It's not meant specifically for
    sheetmetal parts, but it works with them too. It's similar to the forming
    tool, but skips a few steps.

    www.dezignstuff.com\swparts\indent.SLDPRT

    Good luck.

    Matt
     
    matt, May 6, 2005
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  4. Knotfreak

    Knotfreak Guest

    Thank you both for your help.

    I tried using both techniques but I wasn't able to reproduce the result I'm
    looking for. The problem lies in the fact that the "bead" should follow the
    contour of the part.

    Here's what I'm trying to do.

    http://img173.echo.cx/img173/152/dsc000020jn.jpg

    I tried using the spline on surface command but didn't really get anywhere
    with it. Any other ideas on how to do this?

    Knotfreak
     
    Knotfreak, May 6, 2005
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  5. Knotfreak

    matt Guest

    If you were going to use the "indent" technique, you could do a zero offset
    surface from the inside of the part, hide the solid so you can see the
    surface, then work on building the indent tool from there as a separate
    body. How you proceed depends on what information you have. If you're
    just making a "looks like" model, the 3d spline on surface might be a good
    place to start for a sweep. Really, there are a lot of things you could
    do, like ...

    -an extrude offset from surface/reverse offset with a chamfer
    -a sweep
    -projected curves to make a sweep
    -split curve, offset surface, loft between faces
    -cut a hole, make a curve, loft between curve and edges of cut


    Really, the number of things you can do here is limited only by your
    inventiveness and what type of information you're starting from. The less
    info you start from, the more freedom you have in how to create it.

    Anyway, good luck.

    Matt
     
    matt, May 6, 2005
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