paper space

Hello, I've been drawing in model space for about
6 yrs. However I need to see what paperspace is
all about and how it is more useful. I first set the
tilemode to zero, and mview to a window 35.5 units
wide and 23.5 units high ( I plot on 24x36 paper).
Then I set the drawing back to model space and
drew a 35.5x23.5 rectangle, I then copied and placec
another and another into the model space. I tried
experiementing with mview and had mixed results.
What exactly should I attempt to learn first with
PaperSpace since I don't really get the picture
yet.

 

I have mine setup where my title blocks are drawn to 1:1 scale and I insert
them into paper space, then you will need to MView and then type MS so your
crosshairs are inside your new viewport, you then need to set the scale of
what you want to plot using XP scales, type zoom > center (pick the middle
of your drawing) > then 20xp (that makes it 1:50), type PS to get your
cross hairs bak in paper space then you can manipulate the viewport to box
your drawing, I also put the viewport in its own layer which i then freeze
once its in the right position in my title blocks.

XP scales include:

1:1 = 1000xp
1:5 = 200xp
1:10 = 100xp
1:20 = 50xp
1:50 = 20xp
1:100 = 10xp
1:200 = 5xp
1:250 = 4xp
1:500 = 2xp
1:1000 = 1xp
1:1250 = 0.8xp
1:2000 = 0.5xp
1:2500 = 0.4xp

good luck

 

Thank you I just now saved it to my favorites.

 

Remo replied,
I have mine setup where my title blocks are drawn to 1:1 scale and I insert
them into paper space, then you will need to MView and then type MS so your
crosshairs are inside your new viewport, you then need to set the scale of
what you want to plot using XP scales, type zoom > center (pick the middle
of your drawing) > then 20xp (that makes it 1:50), type PS to get your
cross hairs bak in paper space then you can manipulate the viewport to box
your drawing, I also put the viewport in its own layer which i then freeze
once its in the right position in my title blocks.
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Thanks Remo, I understand your whole process (and can start to
see it usefulness) with the exception of the XP part. When I type
XP the drawing is forced to load or create a project which means that
XP is part of a Softdesk add on and not part of generic AutoCad.
My delimea is that our county government is requiring certain aspects
of our asbuilt drawings to be in paper space and xrefs. There is a
high probability that the county is not using the same version of Softdesk
addons that we are.
Can I also just set the plot scale just from the File->Print->Scale settings?
Additionally I seem to still have some ignorance here because when I create
a smaller view within the original paperspace, it shows my entire dwg within
the new view but it still show the old paperspace area underneath so I have
overlapping views.?

 

I think Remo must have meant "ZOOM 0.2xp" or "ZOOM 1/50xp"

"xp" in this context just means "of paperspace scale" - and because
Paperspace is at 1:1 the end result is a drawing at 1:50.

"xp" has been available in vanilla cad since the introduction of the
concept of Paperspace.

I haven't read Paul's introduction to paperspace so apologies if I'm
just repeating what he says there but essentially, you can think of
paperspace as a sheet of paper held up to your "model". You can tear
holes in this sheet of paper and fill them with 'magic' adjustable
lenses which also allow you to control the visibility of layers within
the model. The analogy starts to fall down here, because you can also
overlap lenses to create all sorts of weird and wonderful effects.

 

I think Remo must have meant "ZOOM 0.2xp" or "ZOOM 1/50xp"

no I didnt, i typed the exact process he should follow using xp scales (you
can of course use block scales on your title blocks instead, and you can
also use plot scales but i personally find this method to be the easiest).

JG I have never used the softdesk add-on but you dont need to type XP as a
single command anyway, the xp part is typed within another command eg the
zoom command. try this:

draw a rectangle in model space 3m x 3m, go into paper space, make a MView
at 250m x 250m. type MSPACE so your crosshairs are now within the viewport,
now type Zoom > Center (click in the middle of the 3x3 rectangle) and type
'50xp'. the rectangle is now scaled in that viewport at 1:20, type PSPACE to
then bring your crosshairs back into paperspace.

I would be surprised if your addon loads after typing 50xp within the zoom
command tbh. also the reason I use center and not zoom xp is you will often
have many drawings in model space and with center it allows you to quickly
select the middle of the area you want in the viewport.

Viewports do overlap yes, but it has never caused me a problem with the type
of work I do (topographical, architectural, interior design), and in newer
autocads you can make a viewport different shapes to the bog standard
rectangle. You can use print scales in the plot menu, but you would need to
bring in each title block to scale, the beauty of xp scales is you always
plot at 1:1 and never have to scale your title blocks, just the viewports.

 

Just so I understand - you plot your drawings on a sheet of paper
measuring 62500m²?

 

Just so I understand - you plot your drawings on a sheet of paper
measuring 62500m²?


lol wtf r u talkin about m8

viewport size is NOT relative to title block size, my viewports are frozen
on their own layer, they are just holes u punch in paper space so u can
scale the model space drawing, my title blocks are drawn at 1:1, I use 1.000
= 1m units in model space. I usually have more than 1 drawing per sheet, say
I have an A1 title block drawn at slightly under 594mm x 841mm and i want to
show a kitchen plan, couple elevations and a detail, thats 4 viewports ye,
the elevations and plan would be at say 1:20 and the detail would be 1:1,
you then organise the viewports in the title block, then freeze them.
Simple!!

 

Unless your titleblock is actually 0.594 unit by 0.841 units then - by
your definition - it's not drawn at 1:1

 

Ok, I see, I misunderstood,