Overmolding

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by matt, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. matt

    matt Guest

    When plastic parts are overmolded, are they typically removed from the
    mold, and then put into a different machine, or is an insert just
    removed from the original machine, and both shots are done in the same
    machine?

    I'm asking because I have a design where it would be ideal for the
    overmold mold to open in the opposite direction from the rigid part
    mold. Also, I'd just like to learn more about the process.

    Thanks,

    Matt
     
    matt, Aug 22, 2005
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  2. matt

    Bonobo Guest

    Some of these overmolded parts are done in machines with 2 barrels and
    use one form or another of moving parts in the mold or similar that let
    them do a 2 stage injection.

    Keys on computer keyboards are done this way with two different colored
    plastics, and at least some of the TPE rubber coated plastic parts are
    done this way.

    You will find a lot of molders noting this on their web sites:

    http://www.gwplastics.com/multi-shot.html
     
    Bonobo, Aug 22, 2005
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  3. matt

    kmaren24 Guest

    kmaren24, Aug 22, 2005
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  4. As the GLS manual that Ken suggested points out, it typically depends on
    your volume. Two-shot molds are usually considerably more expensive, and
    usually take more time to build, than two separate molds, so you need pretty
    high volumes to justify them. You also might need to use a two-shot mold if
    you can't get the right two materials to stick well enough in an insert
    mold. The two-shot molded parts are theoretically cheaper than insert molded
    parts, since you are getting one part out of the machine each time it opens
    and you are only running one machine. On the other hand, you have a more
    limited number of machines and shops that you can mold them in, so the rates
    are typically higher. If you're going to make more than roughly 100K per
    year, it probably would be worth the exercise of getting both ways costed.
    When you say "opposite direction", do you mean that the material should be
    injected from one direction on the first shot and from 180 degrees to that
    direction on the second? Do the ejectors need to be on opposite sides? This
    could get pretty expensive in a two-shot mold, so you might want to go for
    insert molding.

    The GW Plastics site showed good examples of classic rotary two-shot molds.
    This was the way we originally did calculator keys. You have two first-shot
    cores and one first-shot and one second-shot cavity.

    Eventually we shifted to shuttle molds, where the moving part of the mold
    moved up and down, rather than rotating. This required two first-shot cores
    and either two first-shot cavities and one second-shot cavity or one
    first-shot cavity and two second-shot cavities. The advantage was that we
    had more flexibility in how we changed the core-side geometry to get
    second-shot material into the inside of characters like 4,6 8, 9, 0, Q, R,
    O, P, D, and B. I haven't seen other people use this technique.

    There are newer methods where one or two platens spin around an axis at 90
    degrees to the normal movement of the machine. This gives you four or eight
    positions where you can do loading, molding, decorating, curing, unloading,
    or other operations. I've not actually seen one of these in action yet.

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Aug 22, 2005
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