OT - the US is a lousy world citizen

I put it in quotes, because personally I don't believe in it. The planning
should occur before the pant's come off. The choice was made when they
jumped in the sack together, not afterwards.

 

What you don't believe in Women's Choice, why ever not?

Not necessarily.

 

The only time when there is a choice is when a pregnancy is life threatening
to the mother, the child has birth defects that would lead to its death
during birth, or in cases of rape or incest. Other than that the woman
chooses. Its like pointing a loaded gun at people, you have to decide
before the trigger is pulled if you are going to shoot someone.

Ok, in cases of rape there wasn't a choice, but under most circumstances
there was a choice. Pregnancy doesn't occur simply because a man and a
woman are in the same room together.

 

It will if you leave them alone together long enough.

 

This is nonsensical either there is a choice or there isn't.

 

If cliff is a Mormon, he is not representative of the whole religion, or
even a majority of them. He most likely is a psychotic lunatic.

 

You don't know much about cabbages, eh?

 

Psychotic lunatics hear voices, right?
Like the ones Herr shrubbie & his pals Robertson, Falwell
& Moses hear?

What does your superstition (and it's ranters) tell you?

 

Cut out prior cutlined sigs.
Don't top post.
Clarity may not work with all wingers.

HTH

 

Why does the crazed loon want to murder the kids just
because of rape or incest or birth defects?
Were they the ones that did it?

 

So, if I understand your cryptic messages, this is what I gather from you:

1. You are an atheist
2. Geroge Bush lied, and no matter what people say, the US was lied to
about Iraq
3. It doesn't matter what a politician or their spouse says, only how you
interpret it. (i.e., Lynn Cheney saying that the Iraqi people are currently
going through the same thing as the US did during its first elections.
Which you interpreted as meaning that they are trying to kick out the
imperialist US forces)
4. Proof only matters if is agrees with your point of view (see responses
to WMD's)
5. Logic means nothing, only proving your point of view.

That said, I end my posting to this thread by saying that people like you,
if you do live in the US, ought to move to France. George Bush is not
perfect, but much of what is said about him is purely an attack by liberals
who want to see him go down. Much of what he has done as president is no
different that what past Democrat Presidents have either said or done. The
only difference between him and the Demos is that he isn't one of them.

 

Is this something to do with exposing you as a fool?

France is very nice.

 

Dunno, obviously he hasn't thought very hard about it and seems rather
confused. The Catholics at least have a logical position, you might
not agree with it but it has internal consistency and isn't morally
bankrupt.

 

OK...I know I said g'bye earlier, but.....



Yeah! It's a lot of fun! It's a riot, even!!

-john



p.s. Stupid Bush and his unilateral action in Iraq. He squandered the
golden showers of international support!
http://www.cafepress.com/blamebush.12221993

 

What part of "Found those "WMDs" yet?" was unclear?
The US was not lied to -- Saddam said he had none.
His son in law that defected had been in charge of the
programs and SAID that all such had been destroyed on
HIS orders long ago.
The UN's inspectors had accounted for 95% as not existing
AND HAD TO BE TOSSED OUT BY THE US SO THAT THEY
COULD NOT FINISH ON THE LAST 5%.
Those that the US was claiming to protect from WMDs, such
as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc. were not worried AND THEY LIVE
RIGHT THERE.

Even IF Iraq had had some "WMDs" (and the US has
by far the most in the world and seems to be getting even
more) the US had no right at all to attack Iraq. See the
UN's charter, the various world treaties, the concept/doctrine
of a just war ..

YOU were lied to and bought it. Plain & simple.
See "Iraq Working Group", "Office of Special Plans",
"Office of Special Projects", Etc. Search with names like
Rimsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz added.

Don't forget things like the "Downing Street Memo"
or THE PRINCE by Nicolo Machiavelli.

HTH

 

You are a funny guy indeed.
BTW, Iraq was ruled by the British and their appointed
puppets for many decades before.
Was the US an occupied nation during it's first elections?

 

I love this guy !!!
Anything wrong as a result of the neocons & their endless lies
& power grabs is because Herr Shrubbie is a Democrat and it's
probably poor little Monica's fault again.

 

He clearly cannot be a Catholic as they oppose all forms of
birth control save perhaps one.
Why have they not yet overrun the worlds's population?

 

iff

 

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