OT; Is scientific process flawed?

The Bible didn't say "apple" anyway.

Monika.

 

I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Al Porter

That's mostly the modern Evangelical Protestants, who, to be
charitable, are busy doing their own thing.

Are you trying to impose a moral judgment here, or just expressing
a personal opinion? Machts nichts.

As the saying goes, for anything to be considered free, it has to
be able to chose, and that includes in stupid, self-destructive or
harmful ways. People are free to choose do evil things.
But then again, I'm predestined to believe in free-will, so there
isn't anything I can do about it.


tschus
pyotr

 

I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Gunner Asch

As the saying goes, just because you have silenced a man, does not
mean you have converted him.

That just moves the locus of the original Series of Improbable
Events to somewhere else.

Me neither, I'm too busy making a living and trying to make a
life.
--
pyotr filipivich
"I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed
over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, ‘Sure, what'll you have?'"
from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries

 

The Holy Scriptures do reference extraterrestrials and spacecraft visiting our Earth.

John

 

Actually, shit flotation direction in water depends upon it's specific gravity.
Lighter than water, it floats. Heavier than water it sinks. The specifically
correct quote is "shit always goes down hill." Remember that guys, it's
important! An awful lot of engineering effort has gone into verifying this
theory (fact actually).

Mike Eberlein

 

Well, I'd say it's not really as good as any other. If things are
intelligently designed, then who designed the designer? And who
designed *that* designer? Where does it stop?

It's like saying that the earth rests on a giant turtle. What doe the
turtle rest on? It it "turtles all the way down"? How could that
possible work?

 

If the design is so intelligent, why is it so f'd up?

Are you really saying that things are designed the best that they
could be? How about people? Are they designed to be as good as they
can be? Are people already perfect? Or are they perfectible in the
future?

Or did this so-called designer just not care or make a shoddy design?

 

You have neither my knees nor my back. Speaking as a systems architect

Well, yes, but complexity is not the same as perfection. And biology
really only makes sense in light of evolution, not some crazy creation
myth. At least evolution has predictive power and can (potentially) be
disproved whereas intelligent design can never be disproved. The only
think I can think of that could prove intelligent design, off the top
of my head, is if a new living species were magically created inside a
sealed glass cube. Personally, I'm not holding my breath that that
will ever happen.

Just because we don't completely understand something doesn't mean
it's false or that we won't understand it in the future.

(BTW, I haven't talked to you in a while -- hope everything is going
well).

 

For those having exposed thy life composed in
a peace thread;
Blessed are those that pace in drift for they have
walked the peace aether;
Let them dwell in the realm of Zoltar his cosmic
crystal menagerie forever and ever.

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
Foundations of the Unity of Science
Second Edition, Volume 2 Number 2
Thomas S Kuhn

looks like mine is 1973 first published
in 1962 University of Chicago Press

John

 

First, you have to get through your own misconceptions. What on
Earth (or anywhere else) makes you think humans, in general, are more
sophisticated than they were 20 or 30 centuries ago? If that were true,
then you wouldn't be having the discussion you describe.

A larger knowledge base? Of course. We're better than ever before
at using the resources of the world around us. We can survive more
easily. We can live in comfort. We can also destroy ourselves, and
other species, and maybe even a whole world, by means that primitive
people would surely have thought to be god-like.

Knowledge, however, doesn't grow on trees. What we know and use has
come to us from an astonishingly small number of people who (at least in
limited ways) have transcended their primitive nature and actually used
their minds to learn things. But if you look at history (any part of
history, any period, any part of the world), you'll see how rare
learning really is, and how brutal and beastly and hostile we can be.

Regardless of where humans came from, human civilization is, and
must be, something created and maintained only by hard work, endless
dilligence, and extreme caution about swallowing any of a trillion forms
of madness that tempt us every day.

Understanding your collegue isn't hard. He's a dangerous mammal
with some acquired skills. If protecting himself from self-delusion
isn't one of those skills, then it isn't. You deal every day with
people of widely varying skill sets, and you learn which skills can be
relied on for which kinds of tasks. Don't rely on your collegue for
anything that needs critical thinking, the ability to challenge
preconceptions, or the independence of mind required to see things in
new ways.

Simple.

KG

 

He Rested 'who' ? his peoples.
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/

 

Interesting.
What one(s)?

 

So wingers actually can be trained to solder? Somebody
probably misspelled soldier and the results were ...

 

So you get in fights with fundies at churches too? Then club them?

Hawke clearly posted "and keep on keep on walking like you
weren't even there".

"The purpose of fighting is to win." - Gummer

 

Stay out of the Sciences too. You don't need Astrology or
Cosmetology.

 

We have fundies such as the Baptists for that:
http://landoverbaptist.org/

 

I do love a gibbering winger.

 

They go to negative infinity, through the singularity to positive
infinity, and the sky is our view of the bottom turtle's ass. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

I see you two buddies have formed a circle-j***.
TV program now running on US hate groups too.
Someplace there must be one on liars & idiots too.