Orientation dialog box

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by dbremer1955, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. dbremer1955

    dbremer1955 Guest

    I'm having a problem with SW 2005 view orientation. When I try to
    update the views, for example to change the current front view to the
    back view, I click on the view that I want to change to and then click
    the update button. As I click the update button, the selected view
    changes from the new (desired) view to the current view. So the change
    is never made.

    Anyone have a solution?
     
    dbremer1955, Jul 18, 2005
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  2. Strange indeed! (SW2005, SP4.0)

    I had made changes ok, but as I studied this issue, I found something quite
    strange.

    Try this. Open the dialog box and select (highlight) a view other than the
    current one. Now run your cursor up to select one of the buttons, such as
    to reset the view, but don't click anything. About 1 second after crossing
    the boundary of the button, the view selection jumps back to the current
    view! Reminds me of the variety of programs that ask you to select a button
    or box, but it always moves whenever it receives the focus. :)

    So the answer to your issue is to select your desired view, and then click
    the button before it has a chance to change your selection. Got to be
    quick!

    Is this what you are seeing? Verify this and then turn it in.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Jul 18, 2005
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  3. dbremer1955

    Seth Renigar Guest

    dbremer,

    Yes I have seen this. Took me a little while to figure out what was going
    on here. I think it has something to do with SW and Windows not playing
    well together.

    What happens is that after you highlight the view that you want to change
    to, and then you mouse-over to the update view button and pause for a
    moment, a help "flag" will pop-up showing what the button is used for. When
    this "flag" pops up, for some strange reason the view that you had selected
    becomes un-selected.

    The only workaround I have found is to "do it fast". Meaning, mouse over to
    the Update View button and click it before the help "flag" has a chance to
    pop up. Works for me anyway.

    Hope this helps.
     
    Seth Renigar, Jul 18, 2005
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  4. dbremer1955

    dbremer1955 Guest

    Seth,
    Thanks for your response. You are right, I hadn't thought of the speed
    solution, but I had noticed the problem recurring on a somewhat random
    basis. Most of the time but not all of the time.

    Your solution works. Thanks again.

    David
     
    dbremer1955, Jul 18, 2005
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  5. dbremer1955

    dbremer1955 Guest

    Wayne, thanks for responding. I do not have exactly the same situation
    as you, tho your solution works for me. My selection changes when I
    click the update button, not before.

    Thanks again,

    David
     
    dbremer1955, Jul 18, 2005
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  6. I would like as many folks as possible to try this for me. It happens on my
    machine every time, on another machine every time, but another one here
    works fine. My VAR can do it, but SW can't seem to make it misbehave. I
    would like to collect enough information to maybe show some common factors.
    It's a very quick test so please participate.

    1. Open a part or assy and go to a named view (front, etc.)
    2. Open the orientation dialog box (space bar) - you should see your
    selected view highlighted
    3. Single left-click on another view in that box
    4. Move your cursor up over one of the 3 buttons at the top (not the Pin
    one)
    5. Does the highlight jump back to the current view or not when the tip
    flag appears???

    Please report:
    SW version
    SW SP
    Video card info
    Anything else that you might find useful that you can think of.

    The ones that I have tried have not proven to be the particular video card,
    which was my second thought. My first was SW settings, but I imported a
    working machine's settings to mine and it still misbehaved. I'm pretty well
    stumped on this one.

    Thanks.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  7. dbremer1955

    Muggs Guest

    The answer:
    No

    The specifics:
    SW 2005 SP 3.1 (because I can't get 4.0 to load, don't get me started)
    Nvidia Quadro FX 1000 67.22 driver
    Coffee - regular Hazelnut no sugar, a little half & half (in a travel mug
    that whistles when I sip)

    HTH,
    Muggs
     
    Muggs, Aug 3, 2005
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  8. I suspect this is a Windows issue, but I haven't figured out what. I'm on
    XP SP2, but another machine on XP SP2 works fine. I have a FireGL card, but
    others with the same card & driver work fine. A machine with a Quadro card
    also misbehaves. Another machine with an identical Quadro card & driver
    works fine, both on XP SP 1 and SW SP4.0. A variety of SW SP machines all
    work fine.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  9. I'm hot on the path of this one. I found that turning off large tool tips
    in SW will make the problem appear, except for one machine here that is on a
    FireGL card with a later driver than I am running. I am in the process of
    getting a later driver. I'll keep you posted.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  10. No home run, but a base hit. I updated to the same video driver as a
    totally working machine with the same FireGL card as I have and mine still
    misbehaves. However, he is on XP SP1 and SW SP2.0, whereas I am on XP SP2 &
    SW SP 4.0.

    Does anyone have a setup that works fine with the large tool tips off? If
    so, what video card & driver, and what Windows version?

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  11. dbremer1955

    Seth Renigar Guest

    Happens here. We discussed this here not too long ago.

    SW2005, SP3.0
    Large icons - OFF
    Show tooltips - ON
    Large tooltips - OFF

    nVidia Quadro FX 1300, driver 6.14.10.6722
    WinXP Pro, SP2.0

    I agree. I think it has something to do with SW and Windows not playing
    well together also. But that's just a hunch....
     
    Seth Renigar, Aug 3, 2005
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  12. dbremer1955

    Art Woodbury Guest

    No problems here.

    SW 2005, SP4.0
    nVidia FX-1100
    Driver 5.3.0.3 (certified)

    Art W.
     
    Art Woodbury, Aug 3, 2005
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  13. Does it work properly if you turn Large tooltips on?

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  14. Do you have Large tooltips on? If so, what if you turn it off?

    Also, what version of Windows?

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  15. dbremer1955

    Seth Renigar Guest

    Works correctly WITH large tooltips ON.

    But I can't stand to work with those stupid looking waste of MHz thingys
    turned on!!!
     
    Seth Renigar, Aug 3, 2005
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  16. dbremer1955

    Art Woodbury Guest

    No problems with large or small tooltips. Win2K, SP4

    AW
     
    Art Woodbury, Aug 3, 2005
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  17. Ok, so one of the factors is certainly having the large tooltips turned
    off - if you turn them on it always seems to work. The other appears to
    maybe be Win XP, and I can't confirm yet whether SP1 or SP2 has an effect.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 3, 2005
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  18. dbremer1955

    Muggs Guest

    Ok, if I turn off large tooltips (I didn't even know I had the option) then
    YES it happens.

    Muggs
     
    Muggs, Aug 3, 2005
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  19. What's your Windows version & SP?

    WT

     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 4, 2005
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  20. dbremer1955

    Muggs Guest

    Windows XP SP2

    Sorry,
    Muggs

     
    Muggs, Aug 4, 2005
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