Stumbled accros follwing problem Attached XDATA containing a reference group code 1005 = handle to another entity. Example a line contains a reference to a text entity After that I wblocked the entire drawing, reopened the drawing and read the line's xdata. Guess what I got, the handle was still there but (handent handle) returned nil. The text was still where it should be. Do I miss something ? Greetings Dieter