James see my other post. Which file should I be using. Send me the right version. thankx James Maeding <jmaeding at hunsaker dot com> |>ok, sent arx to both you guys. |>Can you email me the 2005 one? I am caught naked. |> |>David_Lister <> |>|>..don't know what to say, but my programs appear to be working fine now!! I placed ObjectDCL2005.arx (02/17/04) back into the "Startup Suite" and started firing off different programs that were crashing before and everything went off without a hitch. Odd. |>|> |>|>I spent 20 hours on this problem (Monday & Tuesday) and even e-mailed Chad at 3rd Day. I'm in the middle of upgrading 30 work stations to 2005 and starting to get a bit anxious. I'm going to run a couple dozen more programs and make sure things are running smoothly. (By the way, I checked my machine for viruses, even rebooted and tried all the usual troubleshooting.) |>|> |>|>At Mikron we call this phenomenon WADS (or Weird AutoCAD Displacement Syndrome) In any event, I'm glad to be back in the game here. I've been using ObjectDCL since December 2000 when it was first released and think it's a pretty cool app, despite some of its quirks. |>|> |>|>David Lister |>|>Mikron Industries |> |>James Maeding |>jmaeding at hunsaker dot com |>Civil Engineer/Programmer David