New York Metro UG meeting

First calling to Solidworks users in the New York Metro area. Mark
December 10th on your calendars. This will be an introduction of
Solidworks 2004 for anyone who might be interested in learning more
about the overall program.

Since this is our first meeting, we will begin with charter stuff,
recruitment and asking for volunteers, etc. to keep this going as a
regular event. Other topics that are up for discussion are:

What's New in 2004
Surfacing for the Industrial Designer
Rendering and Animation - Insider Tips and Tricks
SolidWorks 2004 Tips and Tricks Time

You can arrive as early as 5:30pm food will be served at 6:00pm
Meeting will begin at 7:00pm Location 55 west 13th street between 5th
and 6th The meeting will be held at Parsons New School of Design 9th
floor All are welcomed to attend. If you have any questions or
comments please feel free to contact me. Please RSVP to Arthur
Young-Spivey at (212) 625-1940 or

 

"What's New in 2004
Surfacing for the Industrial Designer
Rendering and Animation - Insider Tips and Tricks
SolidWorks 2004 Tips and Tricks Time"

Please note late additions to the meeting :

What Product To Use When SolidWorks 2004 Leaves You Holding
The Bag And Robust Surfacing Is Needed: Discussion will
include, The "C2 Problem".

SolidWorks 2004 Splines: Discussion will include analysis of
whether it will be D-Cubed or ACIS that provides the
solutions to help fix the mess.

Introduction of a think3 representative to demonstrate Global
Shape Modeling, a tool that makes life for Industrial Designers
a lot more fun.

VX presentation: VX Designer will be shown imported non-
native surface geometry and actually editing it !!!

Round table hosted by Arthur on which products are needed to be
used with SolidWorks to actually get the job done. Arthur will
be demonstrating Rhino.

At the conclusion of the meeting there will be an open bar.
Heavy drinking is expected. Please make sure you have
signed up ahead of time for a designated driver.


jon

 

You've NEVER USED either think3 or VX on a daily basis in a work situation,
but you're the expert.

What CAD/CAM program do you use at work? What's that you say...DOS BOBCAD?

That must really suck...

 

Seriously Jon, stay the **** out of my threads if you are going to post
shit. I am tired of you not making positive contributions. You are really
pissing me the hell off with your dumb shit.

 

" really pissing me the hell off with your dumb shit."

I hear you, Art. What you want is me to do is change one
of the meeting presentation topics to:

What Product Should I Use When SolidWorks 2004 Pisses Me The
Hell Off With Dumb Shit Surfacing Tools ?

I think this is a little strong, Art but since it's true I
feel I have no choice but to support you on this.


jon

 

arthur,

if you're using outlook express,
message, block sender
or
tools, message rules, blocked senders list

other news readers have similar or better features
works wonders, out of sight ... out of mind, yippee

 

Jon, if you hate SW so much why even be a poster in a SW discussions board
also most people do not want to rent software (think 3). I am sure people
would
not like the timing out feature especially if think 3 would go out of
business. Think 3
has had to get finanacial backing from investment group 3 times because
sales lag behind.
Also Jon VX is not as good as you present it to be.

 

Cliff, when are you going to get a clue?

J

 

From what I have seen he never will and in
regards to think3 I fully intend to keep pointing
out how full of shit he is with his continuous stream
of lies.

jon

 

He's been told many, many times before that BobCAD is a 3D
program yet he continues to lie about it like he does with so many
other things. Here is an very recent example of someone else
correcting his continuous stream of misinformation / lies.

"From: hamei ()
Subject: Re: Rhino Finally Gets Some Serious Competition


View this article only
Newsgroups: alt.machines.cnc
Date: 2003-11-17 15:58:30 PST

DOS BobCAD is 3D. A nice little program, actually."



The reason I use the DOS version of BobCAD on the shop floor
is that I don't need to use a mouse and it's very, very fast
for what I need to do with it... figure out toolpath for manual
MDI entry at the CNC machine. Often times, the canned CNC
machine cycles are inefficient and so is what the CAM program
outputs. It's impossible to deal with all the real world
situations that occur for machining a part sitting on your
ass behind a computer. Things like different fixturing
needing to be used, more clamps, clamps in a different places
than when the CAD/CAM program was written, etc.

I often need to quickly modify a program that is cutting
air. There are plenty of other reasons as well. Many
proficient machinists understand this logic. Those who have
been forcibly retired from large companies (where they could
only make it for a year anyway) have no understanding of how
to properly machine a part or how to cut cycle time with an
efficient CNC program that has no wasted moves.... because
this often can not be done sitting on your ass behind a
computer. In a small job shop environment very quickly
reducing cycle time is often critical to making money on the
job !!! If you have worked all you life for big companies
where efficient programs are not critical, than this concept
is totally foreign to you.

These concepts has been explained to this person by many
real machinists, God only knows how many times over the years,
in alt.machines.cnc yet he still can't grasp the concepts.

It's really pretty sad. : (

jon

 

don't need to use a mouse and it's very, very fast for what I need to do
with it...<

Your boss must be pretty cheap. I would have thought by now that you, with
your infinite CAD/CAM wisdom and "evangelical" know-how, would have your
boss eating out of your hand. It must suck to have all of the CAD/CAM
knowledge that you posess - but every day you go to work and use DOS BobCAD.

 

"Jon, if you hate SW so much why even be a poster in a SW
discussions board..."

Just because I'm not happy with SolidWorks at present does
not mean that I won't be in the future when SolidWorks Corp.
is *forced to make the changes* I have talked about for a
long, long time. Even the people I have talked with at
SolidWorks Corp, agreed that many of these changes
need to be made.

As far as think3 is concerned, absolutely nothing in
SolidWorks, Inventor, Pro/E Wildfire, Unigraphics, etc. can
compare with think3's Global Shape Modeling. Nothing ! I
concentrate on think3's superior technology not on their
marketing.

I will say this though....thinkdesign / thinkshape can be
purchased through Open Mind (Hypermill). The only
disadvantage is that it runs one release behind.

"Also Jon VX is not as good as you present it to be."

Your right. VX is much better than I present it to be !!!

I'm conservative. :>)

I have now named several areas that VX kicks SolidWorks butt
in and I've also agreed with you that SolidWorks has a
better UI than VX. If you want a conversation with me in regards to
VX vs. SolidWorks and want to argue SolidWorks then you need
to get *specific in you criticism of VX* ...just like I
have with SolidWorks.

jon

 

Remedial English is suggested. He needs to start with the alphabet. H does
not follow the letter F.


jon

 

A,B,C,D,E,F.....

What letter should go next ?

Hint, it's not "H".


jon