New Users Question

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by mike, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. mike

    mike Guest

    I am retired and fool around with woodworking. When I want to build
    something I usually make a pencil sketch of it and then proceed to
    making the sawdust. I am from the 'machanical drawing' era, having
    learned it in the 1940s. At present I probably should be working on my
    estate planning or advanced medical directives but have decided to
    teach myself AutoCad, hoping that will postpone the need to do the
    others. Someone was kind enough to give me a copy of AutoCadLT98 and a
    Getting Started manual.
    The manual has an introductory excercise which made me draw some small
    part with a front view and a top view. The front view showed the length
    and height of the piece and the top view showed the length and width of
    the piece. The top view was drawn and then the front view was drawn by
    'extending' the top view down and completing it.
    Nowhere in the excercise or in the manual is a 'side' view mentioned.
    So fially to my question. How do I create a side view showing widdth
    and height. I figure I can extend either the front view to get the
    height for the side view but how would I then extend the top view to
    get the height as a 90 degree turn is necessary and I can't figure that
    out.

    Thanks for any and all help.
     
    mike, Aug 8, 2005
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    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post mike says...
    One way to do this is extend "work" lines just like you would if you are
    using pencil and paper. Then draw the section and erase any lines you
    don't want. This is similar to what you might do with pencil and paper.

    Remember, cad drafting is simply another tool in the toolbox. There's
    nothing particularly "magical" about it. As you get familiar with the
    tool, you will find faster ways to do certain tasks. The basic drafting
    skills you learned in the 1940's will always stand you in good stead.
     
    Bob Morrison, Aug 8, 2005
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  3. mike

    mike Guest

    Maybe Imy thinking is wrong. I remember drawing the top view above the
    front view and then the side view to the right of the front view. I can
    extend the front view lines to the side view, assuming it is on the
    same 'height' as the front view. But how would I extend the top view
    lines? They would have to go to the right and then down. I am unable to
    see my clear on this .
    Thanks.
     
    mike, Aug 8, 2005
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    Paul Turvill Guest

    Just like you would with pencil and paper: draw a line at 45 deg to one side
    of the front view; project the lines to the 45, then from the 45 deg line to
    the view you wish to construct.
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    Paul Turvill, Aug 8, 2005
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  5. mike

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post mike says...
    Mike:

    The traditional method of orthogonal projection requires drawing a 45°
    line from the upper right corner of the front view. The top view
    "horizontal" lines are extended to the right until they intersect the
    45° line. You then draw verticals downward until they intersect with
    horizontally projected lines from the front view. If the method seems
    unclear try to find a drafting textbook in the library or an used
    bookstore.
     
    Bob Morrison, Aug 8, 2005
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  6. mike

    Paul Turvill Guest

    Or ... you could also use COPY and ROTATE to produce temporary rotated
    copies of any view ... but that might be considered "cheating" by drafting
    purists.
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    Paul Turvill, Aug 8, 2005
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    zenboom Guest

    As you would with paper, draw a 45deg 'working' line from top right of front
    view, then translate
    other working lines with it.
     
    zenboom, Aug 8, 2005
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  8. mike

    mike Guest

    The original grid was sized to do just the top and front view. One over
    the other. I drew my side view to the right of the front view and when
    I did a 'print preview' the side view was not shown. Is this because
    the side view is outside the grid? Is it possible to extend the grid to
    include the side view? Or is there really some other problem that I am
    not aware of.
    Life is good. I am upstairs learning from you people and at the same
    time I have a grandson down in the garage that is learning to do scroll
    sawing. He is too anxious though and keeps breaking the blades. Oh well
    I was there at one time also.
    Thanks
     
    mike, Aug 8, 2005
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  9. mike

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post mike says...
    Mike:

    Ah, now you are getting into one of the things I personally dislike
    about Autocad -- the printer dialog interface. By way of full
    disclosure I should say that I am not a daily user of Autocad. My
    program of choice is called Visualcadd, but that's a discussion for
    another day.

    Perhaps one of the other posters here can guide you through the vagaries
    of getting something printed to proper scale and including all the items
    you want to see on the paper.
     
    Bob Morrison, Aug 8, 2005
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  10. mike

    Paul Turvill Guest

    It sounds like you really need to find a book on AutoCAD basics. A Google
    search should give you a good selection to choose from.

    That said, the size of the grid is set by the LIMITS command. When you plot
    or print, LIMITS is only *one* of the options available. If you study the
    Print/Plot dialogs a bit, you'll find that there are a number of things you
    can change to get your plot looking like you want it. For starters, instead
    of plotting LIMITS, try plotting EXTENTS (in this case the LIMITS / grid
    settings aren't important). Then try various SCALE settings, and experiment
    a bit. Most beginning books on AutoCAD cover these features, as well as does
    the built-in HELP system.
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    Paul Turvill, Aug 8, 2005
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    Line Design Guest

    This is the way I would do it, use 0 and 90 degree lines and draw the
    elevation off to one side of the plan. It will appear at 90 degrees to the
    plan. When you've finished drawing elevation, use the COPY & ROTATE commands
    to turn to elevation around to the correct position.

    Also take a look at the MIRROR command, with which you could draw the
    elevation back to front, (if you're drawing it under the plan, or projection
    lines give a reversed view) and then flip it over.

    As Paul has already said, some might consider above cheating. But using CAD
    should be about speeding things up and making drawing easier - at least
    that's the theory :)

    Printing the drawing is a whole another ball game. Let's take it one stage
    at a time. Would suggest you look at the "Dummies" series of books for
    learning Autocad.

    Good luck

    Chris
     
    Line Design, Aug 10, 2005
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