I have been asked by my boss to try to gather some kind of data to help justify the expense of upgrading our whole engineering group's computers (approx. 18-20 seats). Right now, we are using some real dinosaurs. They are not very much fun to model on. They are so slow that you loose your train of thought for having to wait so much. I'd say we spend just as much time waiting as we do actually modeling or drawing. The management and IS have talked about upgrading since I have been working here (about 9 months). They even come as close as to spec a new system from IBM (and it would have been rocket ships too). But nothing ever happens. My guess is that nothing will happen until they can no longer get support for these ancient systems. Anyway, our current systems specs are all basically as follows: Brand - Acer P4 - 2.6GHz 2GB Ram 3Dlabs Wildcat VP880 Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - 40GB (formatted FAT32, yes you read that correctly) WinXP Pro SP2 These are basically office computers for today's standards. We do (or at least attempt to do) some fairly complex parts and large assemblies with these systems such as plastics, sheetmetal, wiring, etc. We also run some analysis sometimes with Moldflow, Cosmos, and the built in Geometry Compare utility. We would even like to get into doing some Photoworks renders. But with these systems, it's near to impossible. Does anyone know of any data, or any other means to gather/create data that would help justify an upgrade? My boss is all for new systems. And eventually it will have no choice but to happen. I just need to provide him some ammunition with management and IS to help speed up the process of getting new computers in here sooner. Thanks, Seth Renigar