Networl Liocense Server questions

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Darren J. Young, Jun 23, 2004.

  1. Being fairly new to the Network License Server, I have a few
    questions....

    1) The Network License Guide states that the maximum borrowing period
    for licenses is 168 hours. Yet, my license file (as supplied by
    Autodesk) has BORROW=720 in the file. Based on what I've seen, it is
    indeed allowing 30 day borrows. If this correct and the guide out of
    date? Or will the borrowed license only work for 7 days despite the
    higher setting?

    2) Can I have separate license groups for the same product on the same
    license server? I.e 10 total licenses in 2 5 license groups, each group
    used by a different group of people. From my reading, it looks like this
    can't happen (based on the SUPERSEDE parameter) but thought I'd ask just
    to be certain. I'm assuming to do this I'd need a distributed license
    server setup and have separate deployments for each license group I want
    to use.

    3) I currently have deployments installed in a single license server
    model. If I late move to a distributed server model, can I reconfigure
    the software to pull from a different server or assign multiple servers
    different orders for pulling a license? Or do I need to uninstall and
    reinstall based on the different deployment?

    4) Are all of the options specified in the FLEXlm documentation
    available? I'm specifically interested in RESERVE, MAX.

    5) What's the purpose of BORROW_LOWWATER?

    6) Can the LM tools and utilities be run remotely? If so, how?

    7) Any other hidden/undocumented features that might be useful or
    documentation errors or omissions?


    Thanx much!

    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    Darren J. Young, Jun 23, 2004
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  2. Darren J. Young

    Jenna Guest

    1) I believe 30 days is the maximum borrow. I have not read the 168 hour
    thing before.

    2)Check out the information with FlexLM documentation on creating an OPTIONS
    file...I believe this can do what you're asking.

    3)Sorry, this one I don't know. We use single, as well...I believe with
    distributed or redundant, you would, at the very least, have to get a new
    license file with the additional server MAC address and name information.

    4)As far as I know, though I have only tried TIMEOUT and logging with Sam
    Report Lite

    5)Don't know...FlexLM Documentation?

    6)You can run them remotely just by making the folder on the server into a
    shared drive. Then, access that shared drive and run LMTools.exe or
    LMUtil.exe

    7)Sorry, don't know of any myself.
     
    Jenna, Jun 24, 2004
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  3. Darren J. Young

    John Guest

    1) I have tested and confirmed the 30 day limit.

    2) ?

    3) You can reconfigure the deployment or create a new one to point to
    different servers. I have a deployment that runs a redundant model for our
    main office and a distributed model for other locations. For already
    installed machines you will need to push an updated license file or set the
    ADSKFLEX_LICENSE_FILE system variable to point to the servers.

    4)Not all the features in FlexLM are enabled. Someone else maybe able to
    list them.

    5) ?

    6) Here's how I do it. Install the LMTOOLS locally. Map the license server
    local hard drive as a share. On your local machine create a service in
    LMTOOLS that points to the lmgrd.exe, license file, and debug log on the
    license server. Now you can use the local LMTOOLS to control the service.
    I also believe you can use the command line tools to call function remotely.
    Never tried that. More of a GUI type.

    7) I have had issues installing the ADLM to our servers using the default
    install path. It seems to have issues creating a auto start windows service
    when the path to the exe is too long. I just install to c:\ADLM to avoid
    issues.

    John
     
    John, Jun 24, 2004
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  4. Darren J. Young

    Cy Shuster Guest

    Check the abundant network documentation and various white papers at
    www.autodesk.com, as well as www.macrovision.com.

    Think of a "low water mark". If you have people borrowing licenses and
    taking them away for a week, you may want to ensure that at least some
    licenses always remain available on the server. Set this to the number of
    licenses that can never be borrowed. The default is zero.

    --Cy--
     
    Cy Shuster, Jun 24, 2004
    #4
  5. Check the abundant network documentation and various white papers at
    Thanx. Got what I need from the Adesk site. I never think to look that
    because what I'm usually looking for is never there. FLEXlm is the
    exception this time.
    Ahhh....I just noticed something. "Borrow". For some reason I was
    thinking "Check out" which is why I asked what the purpose would be of
    reserving licenses to not being able to used ever.


    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    Darren J. Young, Jun 24, 2004
    #5
  6. Page 12 of the Network Licensing Guide..at least the one that ships with
    Acad Mechanical.
    I've found how to do it via options file. I was thinking it had to be
    some with 2 separate license files.
    I'll give that a whirl. Thanx Jenna!

    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    Darren J. Young, Jun 24, 2004
    #6
  7. 3) You can reconfigure the deployment or create a new one to point to
    Just what I was looking for. Thanx John.
    Looks like all of them except 3 or 4 of which I found a list on Adesk's
    web site. Be nice in they'd do a little more detailed documentation. I
    saw them in the FlexM documentation but didn't want to play with them
    trial and error wondering if they weren't supported or just my syntax
    was off.
    How is this type of setup different than what Jenna does (just shares
    the remote directory and accesses the remote tools). Is there an
    advantage to installing the tools locally and pointing them to the
    remote machine? (assuming I understood what you were trying to tell me
    in the first place - sometimes I'm a little slow)
    What server OS? I think I used the default without problems. Have to
    check with out IT dept to see what OS it's running on. It's either NT4.0
    or Win2000. I don't believe we run any other server's than those OS's.


    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    Darren J. Young, Jun 24, 2004
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  8. Darren J. Young

    Jenna Guest

    I haven't had any issues with the default installation path on the server,
    using Windows 2000 Server, as well as Windows Server 2003.
     
    Jenna, Jun 24, 2004
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  9. Darren J. Young

    Jenna Guest

    Glad to help!
    p.s. I'm on vanilla AutoCAD, but also must admit that I may not have read
    all the documentation carefully enough to notice the 30 day/168 hour
    contradication :)
     
    Jenna, Jun 24, 2004
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  10. Darren J. Young

    John Guest

    I do it this way so I can run a newer version of LMTools without affecting
    the servers and I also use LMTools to query license servers in our remote
    offices.

    NT 4 and windows 2000 server

    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    John, Jun 24, 2004
    #10
  11. How is this type of setup different than what Jenna does (just shares
    I've set it up this way but it's not working properly. It'll read the
    license files and such just fine. It'll even shut down the license
    server ok but it won't bring it back up.

    If I go to Control Panel->Administrator Tools->Services, then connect to
    the remote server's services, and try to restart the service, it tells
    me Access is denied so I'm assuming it's a permissions issue that IT
    needs to resolve for me. If there's anything else you can think of that
    might be causing this, I'd certainly appreciate hearing it.

    Thanx for the help!

    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    Darren J. Young, Jun 25, 2004
    #11
  12. You can not use LMTools to start a license server on a remote system because
    nothing is listing once the server was stopped. Restart will require a
    console visit (physically or virtual) 0r a reboot.
     
    jerry milana \(Autodesk Consulting\), Jun 28, 2004
    #12
  13. You can not use LMTools to start a license server on a remote system because
    But I should be able to go to Admin Tools-> Services, connect to the
    remote system's services and restart the service I believe shouldn't I?

    --
    Darren J. Young
    CAD/CAM Systems Developer

    Cold Spring Granite Company
    202 South Third Avenue
    Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

    Email:
    Phone: (320) 685-5045
    Fax: (320) 685-5052
     
    Darren J. Young, Jun 29, 2004
    #13
  14. No, we recommend that LMTools be used to manually start the license manager
    services. You can remote display a session from the license server using
    terminal services or similar utility and use the remote session to run
    LMTools on the server and start the services.
     
    jerry milana \(Autodesk Consulting\), Jun 29, 2004
    #14
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