Network and second location question

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Gordon Price, Jan 25, 2005.

  1. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    With a stand alone license of AutoCAD, it is now allowed that you install a
    copy at the office, and a copy at home. Is there any way to do this with a
    network copy? I am setting up an office that is two architects, who want two
    network licences of AutoCAD at the office, but with a copy installed on a
    third machine for those rare occations when one is out at a job site or
    client meeting and the other uses the book keeper to pick up red markes to
    make a deadline. Both are also mothers, and having AutoCAD installed at home
    for those days when the munchkins don't allow working from the office would
    be ideal. I know I could configure a VPN connection so each architect could
    connect to the LAN from home, but the router in place now only allows one
    VPN connection, so both of them couldn't work from home simultaniously. I
    guess they could each connect to the LAN and check out a license to work at
    home...
    Anyway, anyone have any comments on the best way to handle this? VPN for
    license checkout? VPN for FlexLM connection? Standalone install at home with
    a network license? Something else I aven't thought of? If this can't be
    done, i am going to suggest they just not pay Autodesk the extra $1000, and
    when a third person needs AutoCAD the staff just switch machines. Not as
    convenient, but a lot cheaper.

    Thanks,
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 25, 2005
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  2. Gordon Price

    gpbuttke Guest

    Per the NETWORK License EULA ...

    "Users can borrow network licenses for remote use for periods of up to thirty days. After the license expires, the server automatically returns it to the main license pool. Remote users who log in to your network over a Virtual Private Network (VPN) connection are issued licenses in the same way as perpetually connected users. Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on one additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote workstation, provided that the user’s two workstations are not used concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of the license holder."
     
    gpbuttke, Jan 25, 2005
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  3. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    "Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on one
    additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote workstation,
    provided that the user's two workstations are not used concurrently, are
    used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of
    the license holder."

    Excellent. Any advise on how to do this? Is it as simple as installing using
    the network license key and doing an activation? Would I use the same key
    three times, once for the network install, and twice for the two home
    installs?

    Thanks,
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 25, 2005
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  4. Gordon Price

    Cy Shuster Guest

    See http://www.autodesk.com/activation.

    --Cy--

     
    Cy Shuster, Jan 25, 2005
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  5. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    For a network license this only talks about FlexLM, License Borrowing &
    lciense portability. I found no reference to a local install at home with a
    network license SN. I also looked in both the FAQs.
    Am I missing something here?

    Thanks,
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 25, 2005
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  6. Gordon Price

    Cy Shuster Guest

    The way to use a network license at home is to borrow the license. You
    don't get to install the same number of seats on a "work server" and a "home
    server". The network license is shared, by definition. The complete rules
    for your network license are contained in the End User License Agreement on
    your install disk (that you clicked "I agree" to).

    Many people use a combination of network and standalone licenses, in order
    to meet their specific situation.

    --Cy--
     
    Cy Shuster, Jan 26, 2005
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  7. Gordon Price

    gpbuttke Guest

    gpbuttke, Jan 26, 2005
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  8. Gordon Price

    jpostlewait Guest

    Each seat of the network license may also be installed and activated on one additional workstation for each user, such as a home or remote workstation, provided that the user’s two workstations are not used concurrently, are used exclusively by the same person, and are owned or under the control of the license holder."

    Think about this for a minute.
    It seems to me the only way to insure compliance is to check out a license from the license server.
    And by the way pay attention to the language about being
    owned or under control; of the license holder.

    John P.
     
    jpostlewait, Jan 26, 2005
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  9. Gordon Price

    Cy Shuster Guest

    Wow, well, I stand corrected; sorry.

    Technically I don't know how you would activate a network seat on a home or
    remote workstation; it seems that would require a standalone license. I
    think the original question was not about permission, but technically how to
    accomplish this. You certainly don't reuse auth codes, since network
    licenses don't have them, but I don't know what the process would be.

    --Cy--
     
    Cy Shuster, Jan 26, 2005
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  10. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    Exactly my question. My reading of the EULA is that I CAN legally set up a
    copy at the architect's home, as well as the two license network at the
    office. I would prefer to avoid license borrowing or FlexLM usage, as that
    requires some pre-planning. The idea is, when a kid is sick, she just works
    from home. No body else in the office has her user password, so no one can
    use her machine, nor would she allow them to, so that also is covered.
    Again, I am HOPING for a way to use a network SN to get a stand-alone
    install. If that is not possible, I have the VPN option, but my preference
    is to not go that route, mainly because her DSL is from SBC and it sucks,
    perhaps 30% of the time no connection. So a way to comply with the EULA, get
    a stand-alone at home, and NOT need a connection back to the office is
    ideal.

    Best,
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 26, 2005
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  11. My guess is that the last sentence of the second paragraph is erroneous.
    Maybe, because of this post, it will be removed. :)

    We've been told that there is no home use agreement with a network copy
    similar to an s/a copy.

    I think VPN will be the best bet. If SBC DSL is sketchy, check out a
    license for a day.

    Sincerely,
    Drew Burgasser
    CAD Masters, Inc.
    www.cadmasters.com
     
    Drew Burgasser, Jan 27, 2005
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    Bill Farley Guest

    It would be nice if you could check out a license and email it to that
    person. That would assure that nobody in the office is using the license
    and she would have the ability to pull the license from her email and work.
    We have been going though the same thing here. I've always had a copy
    installed at home that I could use when a kid is sick but now I can't do
    that. Our IT guy is researching the VPN option but so far no luck.
     
    Bill Farley, Jan 27, 2005
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  13. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    That wouldn't work very well in this case, where there are only two people
    in the office, and both could be out at the same time and need to work
    remotely. I suspect i will set things up so that each could VPN in, check
    out a license and copy work files, then close the tunnel and let the other
    in. Not as good as just having a home copy, but until Autodesk figures out
    how the real world works, we make do ;)

    Best,
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 27, 2005
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    jpostlewait Guest

    Re: Home use
    I just got done talking to Autodesk Customer Care and got teh Authcodes for
    our Network copies to run standalone on a home desktop computer. There was
    no problem I explained that it was a desktop computer with no network access
    to the work network. If you have a laptop then protable licensing makes
    sense but desktops have to be handled this way. Anyway, you probably have to
    deal directly with Customer Care because the regular Authorization people
    don't think they are authorized to do this yet. Call 800-538-6404 then dial
    1 at the voice menu then dial 0 and you will get someone who can help you.


    I copied this from the Home use thread from Cad Managers.
    You can always give this a shot.

    John Postlewait
    IS Department
    George Butler Associates, Inc.
     
    jpostlewait, Jan 27, 2005
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  15. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    John,
    you, as they say, ROCK!

    Thanks.
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 27, 2005
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  16. Gordon Price

    jpostlewait Guest

    That doesn't mean that it will work, Probably depends upon who you talk to and who their supervisor is, but Good Luck.

    John P.
     
    jpostlewait, Jan 28, 2005
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  17. Gordon Price

    Gordon Price Guest

    If it worked once, it can work again. I may have to call three times before
    I get someone willing to do it, but I am OK with that.

    Best,
    Gordon
     
    Gordon Price, Jan 28, 2005
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