Need CAD Work, Charlotte - NC, Arch / Elect/ Instr

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by K Murray, Apr 25, 2005.

  1. K Murray

    K Murray Guest

    Anybody heard of any CAD work in Charlotte, NC. Even if you want to suggest
    a company that would be appreciated.

    Industrial, Commercial, Retail, Academic, Chemical

    Architectural, Electrical and Instrumentation

    Wages easily negotiable.

    Many Thanks in adavnce !!!!!!

    Kevin Murray
    Mt.Holly, NC

     
    K Murray, Apr 25, 2005
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  2. K Murray

    K Murray Guest

    OK, that gives you some Architects and a few builders, who don't use CAD
    anyways.

    How can you find Industry CAD users ?? I haven't found a one in my area.

    KMM
     
    K Murray, Apr 27, 2005
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  3. OK, that gives you some Architects and a few builders, who don't use CAD
    Huh? You must be looking at the wrong architects then. Every architect
    I've met in Charlotte uses CAD, and most use AutoCAD.

    As for who uses AutoCAD in the Charlotte area, I would be very surprised if
    none of the NASCAR teams used AutoCAD, and there are numerous civil
    engineering firms in addition to architecture firms who do use AutoCAD. The
    banks use AutoCAD, the power utilities use AutoCAD, and the structural steel
    industry uses AutoCAD.

    Three weeks ago I went to the AUGI Cad Camp in Charlotte, along with about
    200 other AutoCAD users and developers.

    So there is AutoCAD work to be had in the Charlotte area, and plenty of it.
    ClintonG is right. You will have to find a way to show the right person
    that you are the solution for their CAD requirements.

    Good luck,

    -Rick Francken
     
    Rick Francken, Apr 28, 2005
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  4. K Murray

    K Murray Guest

    You will have to find a way to show the right person that you are the
    solution for their CAD requirements.

    I disagree this but "Thank You" for the good luck, it is appreciated.
     
    K Murray, Apr 28, 2005
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  5. On which part are you disagreeing?
     
    Rick Francken, Apr 28, 2005
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  6. K Murray

    K Murray Guest

    You will have to find a way to show the right person that you are the
    solution for their CAD requirements.

    In theroy correct, in reality I disagree
     
    K Murray, Apr 29, 2005
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  7. Disagree if you want, but you have to sell YOU, whether you are trying to
    land a job or a contract. It's no theory.
     
    Rick Francken, Apr 29, 2005
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  8. K Murray

    K Murray Guest

    Under normal conditions of the past years I would agree. Bad economy,
    working costs, pressure to keep staff at a minimum has made many companys
    very skiddish about taking on people.

    I have 20+ years in CAD and 3 of those years as the Senior CAD Chairperson
    for a major top fortune 500 company. I have supplied data of the project
    accomplishments and $$$ saved.

    However, the companies I have talked to simply aren't interested
    ..
     
    K Murray, May 2, 2005
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  9. Well, those are the conditions that are helping me get work.<g>
    One customer used to have 20 people in his group, 3 of whom were dedicated
    CAD technicians, until the company downsized his group to himself and 2
    other people. When I met with him, he was looking for a CAD person to
    handle 60+ hours of CAD drawings per project. When I started asking
    questions about his CAD workflow and automation, and of automating the
    entire process, his perception of me changed from "CAD person" to "SOLUTION
    TO MY PROBLEM". I am currently automating his project drawing creation
    process and training his group on the methodology. It is already saving
    them hours of work.

    It came down to being able to offer my customer a unique solution that
    leverages my skills and knowledge. If you have more than 20 years of CAD
    experience, you must certainly have a wealth of knowledge as well as
    contacts in the industry who have problems that you can uniquely solve.

    Have you considered contracting or consulting instead of W-2 employment?
    It's a lot easier to sell a $10,000 or $15,000 solution to the person who
    has a problem, and do this several times a year, than to sell a $60,000 (or
    80,000 or 100,000 ) ongoing overhead cost structure to a person who may not
    be the one with the problem.

    Regards,

    -Rick Francken
     
    Rick Francken, May 2, 2005
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  10. K Murray

    K Murray Guest

    I agree with you and your reply is a good one with one minor exception.

    In the limited few managers or Supervisors I have gotten to interview with,
    one of the problems I have run into is "The quick fix". I have offered
    solution type ideas and made the mistake of saying "in 3 months you could
    save X in money and Y in hours" then 6 months and then an approximation for
    1 year. The few who I have been able to get to have indicated, they don't
    want to wait; they want the 6 months savings in a month. I know this might
    sound silly but it is what I have run into.

    Oh, and on the topic of getting to the right Manager / Supervisor. In many
    places it is very difficult. Company's often insulate there Engineering with
    HR which makes it very difficult to get to the right person.

    One HR person asked me if I had experience with AutoCAD 2000, I explained
    that I was actively using AutoCAD 2004. She quickly ended the conversation
    with "Sorry, we would only be interested if you had AutoCAD 2000 experience"
    and then ended the phone call. Trust me it is very difficult to get to the
    right person.
     
    K Murray, May 2, 2005
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  11. Kevin,
    See my comments below...

    I know what you're talking about. "The Quick Fix" was one reason I quit my
    real job. The boss kept having me quick fix the software becase they wanted
    it done right now. The software application basically got quick-fixed into
    oblivion.
    Yep. Seen that happen. Either HR or Purchasing. And unfortunately, not
    enough of them understand Value to be able to hook you up with the right
    person. The really good customers I've found were either former colleagues
    of mine, or were referred by colleagues who work in other companies. I told
    one friend that I had left my job and was now doing software development and
    AutoCAD automation, and she referred me to the Engineer she worked with.
    Well, she probably had to put a check in a box on some form. You could
    have told her that you had experience with AutoCAD 2.1, 9, 10, 11, 12 Dos,
    12 Windows, 13, 13C4, 14, 2000, 2000i, 2002, 2004, and 2005, and she would
    have given you the same answer.

    No question, it is difficult to get to the right person. I think it's the
    hardest part of my work. Designing a building or writing a software app is
    easy in comparison. Just keep telling your friends and colleagues. They
    will try to help, and will tell their friends and colleagues. And if you
    can manage to stay away from the HR types, you'll be better off.

    Keep plugging,

    -Rick
     
    Rick Francken, May 2, 2005
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