MULTI-ROLL FEEDER

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by JWK, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. JWK

    JWK Guest

    We recently purchased the HP multi-roll feeder with a 1055cm plotter. Roll 3 is constantly misaligning when the machine refeeds itself, HP has been here twice with no luck.
    Has anyone had any experience with this product?

    Jason Kelley
    Bruno Associates
     
    JWK, Mar 16, 2005
    #1
  2. JWK

    Matias Garza Guest

    We too have had several problems with alignment with our multi-roll feeder.
    One possible reason that HP threw out was paper compatibility (which I can
    see is possible with most glossy, trace and canvas type rolls...but with
    Translucent and vellum?!...I'm not so sure about that). Unfortunately when
    you attach a multi-roll feeder, this disengages the single sheet loader
    which we utilized often, plus we needed to use the several types of paper
    that were not (according to HP) compatible with the multi-roll device. I can
    see how usefull the multi-roll feeder can be when you're printing out
    different sizes of translucent/vellum, or when you're doing large volume
    batch plots (so you don't have to swap out rolls when one runs out), but
    with different paper types...forget about it. So we removed it from the
    plotter and it now sits in our sample room collecting dust. Anyone want to
    buy it?
     
    Matias Garza, Mar 16, 2005
    #2
  3. JWK

    Matias Garza Guest

    Heres what they sent me in regards to paper recommendations:

    HP Designjet Multi-Roll Feeder - Media Recommendations
    Security level: Public
    ___________________________________________________

    Introduction
    The multi-roll feeder is designed to automatically deliver the media for print jobs without having to remove and change media rolls. It can provide complete media flexibility and/or unattendedness from the PC, depending on the combinations of media type and size loaded. Media widths up to 914 mm (36 inch) and up to three 250 m (820-feet) rolls (HP currently offers 91.4 m (300-feet rolls).



    NOTE: The multi-roll feeder will not accept canvas or adhesive-backed vinyl.


    Media supported

    Coated and heavy coated paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Coated paper
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C6019B


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C6020B


    914 mm x 91.4 m

    (36 inch x 300 foot)
    C6980A

    HP Heavyweight Coated paper
    610 mm x 29.9 m

    (24 inch x 100 foot) 35 lb
    C6021B


    914 mm x 29.9 m

    (36 inch x 100 foot) 35 lb
    C6022B




    Photo paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP High-gloss photo paper
    914 mm x 30.5 m

    (36 inch x 100 foot)
    C6814A




    Plain paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Bright White Inkjet paper
    A, 500 sheets
    C1824A


    A, 250 sheets
    C5976B




    Films


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Translucent bond
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C3860A


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C3859A

    HP Vellum
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C3862A


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C3861A

    HP Matte film
    610 mm x 22.9 m

    (24 inch x 120 foot)
    51642A


    914 mm x 22.9 m

    (36 inch x 120 foot)
    51642B

    HP Clear film
    610 mm x 22.9 m

    (24 inch x 75 foot)
    C3876A


    914 mm x 22.9 m

    (36 inch x 75 foot)
    C3875A




    Other paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Natural tracing paper
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C3869A


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C3868A

    HP Banners with Tyvek
    610 mm x 15.2 m

    (24 inch x 50 foot)
    C6786A


    914 mm x 15.2 m

    (36 inch x 50 foot)
    C6787A

    Thin natural tracing paper
    greater than 70 g/m2
     
    Matias Garza, Mar 16, 2005
    #3
  4. We have two of them and can use only 90 - 120 grams coated paper; everything else fails. Disappointing. I believe the Oce TCS400 is a better product at this point.

    Govert
    "Matias Garza" <> schreef in bericht Heres what they sent me in regards to paper recommendations:

    HP Designjet Multi-Roll Feeder - Media Recommendations
    Security level: Public
    ___________________________________________________

    Introduction
    The multi-roll feeder is designed to automatically deliver the media for print jobs without having to remove and change media rolls. It can provide complete media flexibility and/or unattendedness from the PC, depending on the combinations of media type and size loaded. Media widths up to 914 mm (36 inch) and up to three 250 m (820-feet) rolls (HP currently offers 91.4 m (300-feet rolls).



    NOTE: The multi-roll feeder will not accept canvas or adhesive-backed vinyl.


    Media supported

    Coated and heavy coated paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Coated paper
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C6019B


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C6020B


    914 mm x 91.4 m

    (36 inch x 300 foot)
    C6980A

    HP Heavyweight Coated paper
    610 mm x 29.9 m

    (24 inch x 100 foot) 35 lb
    C6021B


    914 mm x 29.9 m

    (36 inch x 100 foot) 35 lb
    C6022B




    Photo paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP High-gloss photo paper
    914 mm x 30.5 m

    (36 inch x 100 foot)
    C6814A




    Plain paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Bright White Inkjet paper
    A, 500 sheets
    C1824A


    A, 250 sheets
    C5976B




    Films


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Translucent bond
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C3860A


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C3859A

    HP Vellum
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C3862A


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C3861A

    HP Matte film
    610 mm x 22.9 m

    (24 inch x 120 foot)
    51642A


    914 mm x 22.9 m

    (36 inch x 120 foot)
    51642B

    HP Clear film
    610 mm x 22.9 m

    (24 inch x 75 foot)
    C3876A


    914 mm x 22.9 m

    (36 inch x 75 foot)
    C3875A




    Other paper


    Media
    Size
    Supply number

    HP Natural tracing paper
    610 mm x 45.7 m

    (24 inch x 150 foot)
    C3869A


    914 mm x 45.7 m

    (36 inch x 150 foot)
    C3868A

    HP Banners with Tyvek
    610 mm x 15.2 m

    (24 inch x 50 foot)
    C6786A


    914 mm x 15.2 m

    (36 inch x 50 foot)
    C6787A

    Thin natural tracing paper
    greater than 70 g/m2
     
    Govert J. Knopper, Mar 16, 2005
    #4
  5. JWK

    JWK Guest

    Thanks for the replies, We have been "escalated" to a "tier 3 technician" who is supposed to arrive today with more parts to try. The previous two techs had never seen the multi-roll feeder before so hopefully they will be able to get it fixed. The top roll loads every time, the middle roll 90% of the time, the bottom roll fails about every third or forth feed.

    Jason Kelley
    Bruno Associates
     
    JWK, Mar 16, 2005
    #5
  6. JWK

    jpostlewait Guest

    I tried to buy two of those from my reseller and he refused to sell them to me.
    Said that they had so much trouble trying to service them that he didn't want me using it.
    I thanked him and took his advise.

    John Postlewait
    IS Department
    George Butler Associates, Inc.
     
    jpostlewait, Mar 16, 2005
    #6
  7. JWK

    JWK Guest

    This was the first one our reseller has sold. We've had several HP plotters and have had good luck with them so we gave it a shot. Maybe it was designed by the same team that design the paper bin for the 1050?

    Jason Kelley
    Bruno Associates
     
    JWK, Mar 16, 2005
    #7
  8. JWK

    Dave Jones Guest

    plotters and have had good luck with them so we gave it a shot. Maybe it was
    designed by the same team that design the paper bin for the 1050?
    oh, those idiots! I still cuss them every morning when I arrive in my office
    to 50 plots laying helter skelter on the floor...grrr
     
    Dave Jones, Mar 16, 2005
    #8
  9. JWK

    Matias Garza Guest

    When we had the paper bin in front of the plotter, it always made it look
    pregnant for some reason.
     
    Matias Garza, Mar 16, 2005
    #9
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