Mtext Width Factor

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by jonesr, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. jonesr

    jonesr Guest

    Anyone know of a way to change the width factor of MTEXT? For example, if
    the text style is defined with a 0.8 width factor and you create an MTEXT
    object but later you want to change it to have a width factor of 1.0, Can
    this be done without exploding the MTEXT object to TEXT?
     
    jonesr, Jul 26, 2004
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  2. jonesr

    OLD-CADaver Guest

    MTEXT will echo the width defined in the style, changing it there will be reflected in the drawing. If want to change just one instance o fMTEXT or just one word in a paragraph, use the \W modifier.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jul 26, 2004
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  3. jonesr

    jonesr Guest

    That's the idea I had in mind but I cannot find the control codes (\m)
    documented. Where can they be found?

    reflected in the drawing. If want to change just one instance o fMTEXT or
    just one word in a paragraph, use the \W modifier.
     
    jonesr, Jul 26, 2004
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  4. jonesr

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    In 2002,
    mk:mad:MSITStore:C:\LDD2002\Help\acad_aag.chm::/adev_04157.html

    Note: Replace the "C:\LDD2002" with *your* path - then paste the whole line in your IE (or windows explorer) address field and press <enter>
     
    R.K. McSwain, Jul 26, 2004
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  5. jonesr

    jonesr Guest

    That's it. Thanks all.

    In 2002,
    mk:mad:MSITStore:C:\LDD2002\Help\acad_aag.chm::/adev_04157.html

    Note: Replace the "C:\LDD2002" with *your* path - then paste the whole line
    in your IE (or windows explorer) address field and press <enter>
     
    jonesr, Jul 26, 2004
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  6. jonesr

    OLD-CADaver Guest

    Look in "HELP" in "AutoCAD User's Guide" under "Format multiline text in a text editor"

    Use the following table to create a document with formatting codes.

    \0...\o Turns overline on and off
    \L...\l Turns underline on and off
    \~ Inserts a nonbreaking space
    \\ Inserts a backslash
    \{...\} Inserts an opening and closing brace
    \Cvalue; Changes to the specified color
    \File name; Changes to the specified font file
    \Hvalue; Changes to the text height specified in drawing units
    \Hvaluex; Changes the text height to a multiple of the current text height
    \S...^...; Stacks the subsequent text at the \, #, or ^ symbol
    \Tvalue; Adjusts the space between characters, from .75 to 4 times
    \Qangle; Changes obliquing angle
    \Wvalue; Changes width factor to produce wide text
    \A Sets the alignment value; valid values: 0, 1, 2 (bottom, center, top)
    \P Ends paragraph Autodesk

    Formatting codes along with text INSIDE "curly" brackets {} only that text receives coding, in the example below "WIDE TEXT" has a width factor of 2, the "normal width is defined in the style.

    This is normal text, this is {\W2;WIDE TEXT}, this is back to normal.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jul 26, 2004
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  7. jonesr

    doug k Guest

    and all that cool formatting gets whacked by the first rookie that tries to
    edit it with the built-in.

    (just grumbling.......and warning a little)

    text editor"
     
    doug k, Jul 26, 2004
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  8. jonesr

    OLD-CADaver Guest

    <<and all that cool formatting gets whacked by the first rookie that tries to edit it with the built-in.>>

    Works fine for us, we haven't had any trouble, unless the rookie changes the format code to something wrong.

    But before he sits down, he gets a training session, and his editor is set to:

    :lisped#C:/WINNT/SYSTEM32/NOTEPAD

    by default, so he'd have to go a long way to use the internal editor anyway.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jul 26, 2004
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  9. jonesr

    doug k Guest

    yikes, you guys use notepad ALL THE TIME for mtext?

    i'm too much of a wysiwyg kind of guy to work thru that. the built-in still
    has issues for wysiwyg, but is better than the alternative. i'm probably
    one of the few that likes (and utilizes) that transparency thing.

    i'm moving to mtext for just about everything and find the internal better
    suited for most of the work.

    i've tried wordpad/notepad and found it too cumbersome for things like
    background masking and not quite indicative enough of the final result,
    especially when working with mtext width values. true, these things are
    about the only way you can get that special formatting going on, but
    thankfully i don't need that too often.

    i have toolpac's mtext editor, which is about the same, and ill use it some
    (mostly on large bodies of notes), but even that fine product will only get
    the dust blown off it periodically. its nice in that it functions as an
    internal editor without replacing it. i get a choice, which is cool.

    to edit it with the built-in.>>
    the format code to something wrong.
    anyway.
     
    doug k, Jul 26, 2004
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  10. jonesr

    OLD-CADaver Guest

    <<yikes, you guys use notepad ALL THE TIME for mtext?
    Not really, only for text that has more than 32 characters, that what the :lisped# takes care of. If it's less than 32 characters it pops up in a dialog box that's just like the ddedit single line text box.


    <<i'm too much of a wysiwyg kind of guy >>

    Which is why I dislike the "internal" editor, what you see is nothing like what you get.


    <<i've tried wordpad/notepad and found it too cumbersome for things like background masking and not quite indicative enough of the final result,>>

    And you think the internal is?? okay, carry on.

    BTW, we rarely, if ever, use background masking.


    <<toolpac's mtext editor>>

    Something else, we'd have to buy and maintain, Notepad came with the box.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jul 26, 2004
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  11. jonesr

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    What's to maintain?
    Install it and go.
    Instant 700+ tools at your disposal.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Jul 26, 2004
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  12. jonesr

    OLD-CADaver Guest

    <<What's to maintain?
    Install it and go. >>

    Installation on over 150 seats, utilizing different versions of AutoCAD and several other 3rd party software, plus in-house customizations requires maintenance to avoid collisions with and maintain compliance with office/client standards/customizations.
    Besides, a major chunk of those 700 tools we'd never use, and we have tools in place for most of the rest, the $195 per seat wouldn't get us much we don't have already.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jul 26, 2004
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  13. jonesr

    doug k Guest

    snip
    what you get.

    i'll agree that i'm not happy with it, but i can't imagine an outside text
    editor is better (in 2005).
    i'm in the civil field and we are plagued by reviewers who insist on seeing
    everything on one plan. inevitably we get the comment "its too cluttered to
    read", usually after the comment "turn on all the existing feature layers,
    and the resource layers, and the........."

    properly placed masking is an effective clutter management tool.

    sn
    i understand the reluctance to overdo it on the 3rd party stuff, but toolpac
    is easier to maintain and and update than most.

    i suppose the 3rd-party-seat-cost versus overhead-customizing ratio depends
    on corporate size. we're small and find it more effective to buy our addons
    rather than have it done in-house.
     
    doug k, Jul 27, 2004
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