Mold Tools

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by matt, May 4, 2005.

  1. matt

    matt Guest

    Books to help you with SW mold design? Not yet, at least I haven't seen
    any.

    The mold tools in SW are in general pretty awful, there are a couple of
    them that I use, but in general I avoid them. One of the reasons is
    that SW is more and more insisting on doing things in multi-bodies
    rather in assemblies. In an assembly you can segment your work and
    close down the rest of it when you're only working on a single part. In
    multi-body, all your eggs are literally in one basket.

    The Draft Analysis is pretty good, Split Line is useful, Draft function
    works well. The Undercut function always says that all the faces of the
    part are undercut (because it classifies them from the wrong side of the
    mold, but of course SW tells me that "this is working as designed"), and
    the Thickness Analysis for plastic parts is tough to get meaningful
    results from, but it does work.

    The Parting Line, Shut off surfaces, and especially Parting Surface
    functions are not reliable at all. You'd be way better off just doing
    things manually rather than trying to use these because you would wind
    up going back and repairing problems and working around stuff that just
    doesn't work or doesn't give you results you can work with. For
    example, the Parting Surface won't work at all if you have small concave
    features at the PL, and it will give you results you can't control if
    you have a PL that is not planar.

    Anyway, I use SplitWorks. It's kind of quirky, but you can always get
    it to help you out. The one thing it doesn't handle at all is complex
    shut offs. Simple shutoffs it does automatically, but passing shutoffs
    are always a manual surfacing job. I believe the other mold split
    packages are going to be pretty much in the same boat, although I may be
    wrong about that. It has been a couple of years since I used Faceworks
    (from Capvidia) and iMold. They each had their drawbacks, which is why
    I chose SplitWorks.

    If your company won't pay for training, you're kind of in a bad
    position. Learning this on your own won't be much fun. VARs are
    usually a bad source of information for mold applications, cuz they
    typically don't have engineers with mold experience, although you may
    get lucky.

    There are a couple of sources of info which you might see if you can get
    your hands on. First, at the last SolidWorks World, There were two mold
    presentations. If you know someone who went and has the CDs, the
    powerpoint presentations might be worth having.

    Matt
     
    matt, May 4, 2005
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  2. matt

    jon_banquer Guest


    "The company that I work for doesn't allow training, you
    have to figure it out on your own"

    This is now pretty much the standard in a small machining
    job shop. Means that documentation is critical. I've put a
    lot of effort into getting better documentation done for the
    product I prefer.

    Perhaps one of the reasons SaladWorks documentation on mold
    design is so poor and that there are no books is that
    SaladWorks Corp. doesn't want to document how poor their
    mold design tools are ? I'm not a mold designer but I have
    noticed over the years that many people seem very unhappy
    with SaladWorks as mold design tool. Just recently the
    person prominently featured in a SaladWorks ads, who is a
    regular poster here, stated he would like to see SaladWorks
    Corp. withdraw the ad that has him raving about SaladWorks for
    mold design. Like you (and I) he has a Cadkey background.

    If I were in your shoes, I would stay with Cadkey until
    SaladWorks gets better or find away to switch to VX which
    seems to have plenty of mold tools that VX creates
    themselves rather then rely on a third party. Steve Mackay
    posts here and in alt.machines.cnc. He uses VX. You might
    want to ask Steve Mackay what he thinks of VX's mold design
    capabilities.


    jon
     
    jon_banquer, May 4, 2005
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  3. matt

    M.D. Guest

    Hi,

    I've been using SolidWorks as a secondary tool for years, with Cadkey 19 as
    my main design software. I'm used to doing my core and cavity creation in
    assembly mode, the old fashioned way. I have just struggled through my
    first attempt at using the new mold tools (new in 2003). The company that I
    work for doesn't allow training, you have to figure it out on your own.
    Does anyone have any suggestion for books that will bring me up to speed in
    SolidWorks? Particularly in mold design?
    Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

    rhuber @ ivanhoetool dot com
     
    M.D., May 4, 2005
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  4. matt

    Cliff Guest

    Oh, goodie .... now we know what he's expert in ....
    besides bitch & whine with no clues.
    Except who would believe him?
     
    Cliff, May 4, 2005
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