Mold maker blowing smoke at me?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Sporkman, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. How big is the radius? The .015" flat will probably be strong enough if it
    grows quickly. At the very least, it's a hell of an improvement over 0!

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Feb 25, 2005
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  2. Sporkman

    Dan Bovinich Guest

    The way you have it now - is correct. We always as a rule of thumb used 5
    degrees. But when the shut off is not very tall, we made sure that there was
    at least .005" angled gap when the shutoff steel was approaching each other
    (when the "A" side" met the "B" side.) If we didn't have at least this much,
    when the leader pins wore out and if the molding machine was wore out, there
    is a chance that the steel will collide and as soon as that happens, the
    steel will pickup/gall and you will have a spike of flash in that area
    (unless you are running the poly carb or other thicker plastics.)

    We actually called out in our mold specs to have this draft. Cheaper corner
    cutting toolmakers or a proto-type moldmaker (that wants to be a production
    mold maker) would put straight shut-offs (no angle at all, maybe a .001"
    clearance) and the tool would run fine for the first shots and the tool
    company would get paid. Then after the tool runs for a few thousands shots,
    the straight shutoffs would gall and then the flash would start. You would
    send the tool back and they would blame the flash on you somehow and you
    would pay to fix it.

    Anyway, the moral of the story is: always have angled shutoffs....

    Dan Bovinich
    22 years of moldmaking
    www.swcad.com
     
    Dan Bovinich, Mar 3, 2005
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  3. Sporkman

    Dan Bovinich Guest

    Sporkman,

    I looked again, and Black Dragon is correct on both points, eliminate
    feather edge and insert the area. You may be able to put a lesser angle
    shutoff (no less than .005" top-to-bottom angle) and maybe you can eliminate
    the feather edge.

    Good eyes Black Dragon....

    Dan
     
    Dan Bovinich, Mar 3, 2005
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  4. Sporkman

    Malcontent Guest

    On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:26:05 -0500, "Dan Bovinich" <dittodan-take
    With the addition of straight P/L locks, you can get away with much
    less than 5°.
    We do a lot of extremely small close tolerance multi-cavity medical
    molds that you'll never get 5° to work with.
    Side Locks, X-Series, Guide Locks,Top Locks and Shuttle Lock sets all
    have straight alignment.
    My personal favorite is the Guide lock. The female locks can be custom
    fitted to pockets that don't match exactly.

    Malcontent
     
    Malcontent, Mar 3, 2005
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