I rarely come on usenet anymore to look at comp.cad.solidworks because of several clowns that have more or less wrecked this group. Why don't we just all move to Ben Eadie's website? Although it requires login It's moderated. And before anyone goes on the attack I don't get anything by plugging Ben's site, I just think it's a good idea. Ben doesn't make any money for putting up his site and there are no ads. Just more reasources than you get here. Anyways, the website is [URL="http://www.solidmentor.com"]www.solidmentor.com[/URL]