moderate or dissolve this NG ??

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Hmmmm, mebbe the meltdown *has* arrived.... goodgawd....

Sorta reminds me of Jack Nicholson in The Shining, writing his book, which
consisted of 400 pages of All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy....

--

Mr. PV'd

Mae West (yer fav Congressman) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Definately an OCD trance isn't it?

And look!
Jonnie can't give himself five google stars, but his two imaginary
buddies can.
So, Jonnie gets two votes for five google stars, from his imaginary
buddies, and others get three google stars from Jon, and his two
imaginary buddies.

How sad is it to watch?

OCD trance.

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Meltdown city.

"You should do some research into how machine tools deliver power, and the
relationship between hp, torque and rpm, before claiming a published spec for a
machine is incorrect"


"Please let me clarify that Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way
and that we cannot control what people are writing on the web."

"Anybody can get evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves."

"I hope this clarifies any doubt."

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Filter for those who can. I have been away for 15 days or so, and on opening
OE, the message count on C.C.SW was 187, only 65 were loaded thanks to my
plonk file.
....And I am not filtering out all the people that respond to JB.
JM

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

I've lurked in this NG for over a year and half now - in the beginning it
was pretty useful. Now unfortunatley I seldom if ever log on. There is
simply too much JB and spam to waste my time reading here any longer. After
15 days vacation I see only 33 worthwhile posts out of nearly 200 in OE.
Thank goodness for my plonk filter. No, sadly I have to say its time to let
his NG go the way of the dinosaurs.

rp

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/ /

 

"Log on"?
If you don't use it then that's part of the problem, is it not?

For years I'd been filing abuse complaints for this NG against
what little actual non-jb SPAM I saw here with all involved ISPs,
hosting firms, the domain registers for the SPAMMER's Sites &
their newsservers.
How long since you've seen SPAM from a software pirate here?
While my server probably blocks most of the actual SPAM
there should have been more "leakage" if it's as bad as you claim.
I've not seen it.

But I stopped trying to help in this matter a bit back. Took too
much time for no thanks but many complaints.

IF people wanted to deal with jb I expect that they could.
I find him so clueless it's funny & I like the (sick) humor.

You just said you were filtering. So what could you see?

Were they worthwhile?

How old are you?

It's USENET.
If you did not know that what did you think it was??

Where are YOUR on-topic posts (& was this one of them?)

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

 

Matt Lombard is too busy getting his ass handed to him to post here:

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/matt-reviews-synchtech.html

"Matt - Thanks for that interesting view of ST from a SolidWorks
user's perspective.

But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture.

What ST and its peers will ultimately do is make CADD and CADD-like
functionality accessible to people that are not trained CADD operators
or experts like you - because they shouldn't have to be highly-trained
or experts, regardless of who may believe that incredibly complicted,
hard-to-use CADD systems coindicentally serve as a convenient means of
protecting ones 'domain' and maintaining the high value that's
typically placed on their skills.

The ultimate goal of ST is to allow those who consume our designs to
participate in the design process in new and much more interactive
ways that were not previously possible or practicle, due to the
barriers imposed by traditional CADD systems like SolidWorks,
Inventor, et.al.

Just as anyone can pick up a pencil and sketch out their ideas on
paper, we want anyone to be able to easily do the same with a
computer, in 3D, and with little or no training.

That's what emerging technolgies like ST are really about, and given
the aformentioned goals, one can also understand why some may regard
it as more of a threat, rather than merely a better, more productive
way of working."

.... Tony Tanzillo.

My response:

"Tony,

"But, with regards to that technology, I think you and others in this
conversation are not be seeing the larger picture."

In my view a big part of the larger picture is using ST/Direct
Modeling to be able to manufacture product designs faster. Frankly,
I'm really sick of reading the endless nonsense on design intent. I
work for a very large company that has many seats of Pro-E and not one
engineer has ever asked our machine shop to preserve their design
intent. Their main interest seems to focus on one area... can they
have their parts today and how can we make their parts faster and
cheaper.

ST/Direct Modeling are the tools that machinists and CADCAM
programmers need to give designers and engineers their part in the
fastest possible time. Most of the CADCAM systems being used today
don't have powerful ST/Direct Modeling tools and most of the CAD in
CAM systems is very badly out of date an so far behind the times that
it's laughable.

Let’s make no mistake, NX 6 is the clear leader in providing a
complete solution for manufacturing as CoCreate has no CAM that runs
inside of it. PTC simply isn't anywhere near as good as Siemens at
creating fully integrated CADCAM systems. While PTC is buying out
companies and using others CAM technology Siemens is rolling their
own. I’d be happy to provide specific examples where NX has moved away
from industry standard software components and created their own
components in order to give the CADCAM user a better more integrated
solution."

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/