Model of Injection Molding Die?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by post, Apr 28, 2007.

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    post Guest

    Greets all..
    Am doing some self-learning on injection molding.
    goal is to learn to design dies.. though I don't forsee this happening
    anytime fast. there sure is alot of information out there.

    I was hoping for two things:
    1. recommendations for good (practical) design literature and,
    2. a solidworks model of a real die thats been produced and put to
    work
    with good results. (its my 2nd best option to actually having a real
    die here on my desk).

    Thanks,
    -Tony
     
    post, Apr 28, 2007
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    Cliff Guest

    AFAIK Molding (moulding) is not done with dies. Though molds
    (moulds) might be made by tool & die shops.
     
    Cliff, Apr 29, 2007
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    Bo Guest

    I would recommend taking a mechanical or plastics technology
    curriculum at a college. Knowledge of plastics, processes, molding
    and in-use parameters, etc. are just plain required to translate into
    successful tools.

    Get the online catalogs from the mold base builders as a start.

    Then remember that all the variations on tools for short run, RP
    Tools, high-heat conductivity, specialty materials and functions, and
    even such things as metal injection molding exist, so there is no one
    thing which adequately describes an "injection mold base".

    I'm not going to get all the URLs for you and all the accessory makers
    but use Google to get:

    Hasco
    National
    DME
    Mold Masters
    Inco
    Omni
    PCS
    Progressive

    and a few dozen others.

    There are a good half dozen magazines & most have online versions for
    mold making, plastics, product design, etc.

    http://www.moldmakingtechnology.com/

    It is a long road, but I think a productive one if you can stick with
    it to get the training required to be a good product & mold designer.
    But I don't see any short term solution. It takes a lot of diligent
    time to get good.
     
    Bo, Apr 30, 2007
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    Bo Guest

    As an aside to what top product designers get, someone quoted what
    entry level competent expierenced designers get at Apple the other
    day. $200k/yr was what the number was.

    Aim high.
     
    Bo, Apr 30, 2007
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    post Guest

    Bo,
    Thanks for the leads. There's some good info on the MoldMaking site.
    Though its still a bit "advanced" for me.. in that I'd like to get a
    good look
    at the big picture before dealing with things like flow analysis.

    I'm trying to get some general molding info.. things like:
    what are molds made of? are they hardened? hand polished?
    where do the mold guides go? how big should they be? how many do i
    need?
    how many ejector pins do i need?
    does my mold need to be heated or cooled? how do you heat/cool a
    mold?
    what kind of clamping forces might be required? whats the best way to
    clamp a die?

    things like that.... not to mention all the other elements i am
    unaware of.

    thanks again.

    still reading...
    -tony
     
    post, Apr 30, 2007
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    Bo Guest

    I would simply get a book from your local library, or from a library
    they can share books with, and find one on "Plastic Injection Mold
    Design" or similar.

    You can buy books like that from Amazon in used or new:

    Type in "injection mold" in Amazon and look at all the titles.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Apr 30, 2007
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  7. It depends. Some short run or prototype molds, and even a few longer run
    production molds are made of Aluminum. Most molds are steel, with many
    different choices available. A few are made of other specialty materials,
    like Copper alloys. (Usually just inserts, not the whole mold.)
    Again, it depends. Some molds are made of relatively soft pre-hardened
    material, like P20. Some molds are made of S7 or H13 and then hardened.
    Again, it depends. (Are you noticing a pattern here?) Some molds are
    machined or EDMed and then polished, then have a texture added to them. Some
    are EDMed and the EDM texture is left on.
    As you probably guessed, it depends. How big is your mold? How accurately do
    the two halves need to match up?
    You should know the answer by now. How big is your part? What material is it
    molded in? How deep are the walls and ribs? How much draft do they have?
    Where can you put the ejector pins? Can you allow for push marks opposite
    the ejectors? How flat does the surface need to be near the ejectors?
    If you don't want to run really long mold cycles, yes. The temperature you
    wnat to run the mold at depends on the material you are molding, the
    cosmetics you require, the tolerances you can allow and other variables I
    can't think of right now.
    Generally with water lines. For hotter molds, with oil.
    How much pressure do you need to put into the plastic to fill and pack the
    mold? What is the projected surface area of your molded part(s) and the
    runner system? Multiply those two numbers together and add a bit and you've
    got a good guess at what kind of clamp force will be needed.
    With a molding machine?
    I'm not mold maker, nor a mold designer, and I have never played either one
    on TV, in a movie, or in a play. Some of my best friends are, though.


    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Apr 30, 2007
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    Cliff Guest

    Sprayed metals too.
     
    Cliff, Apr 30, 2007
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  9. There are some other links here that you might find helpful.
    http://www.injection-moldings.com/faqlinks.html


    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Apr 30, 2007
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    post Guest

    whats the best way to clamp a die?

    lmao.

    thanks again, all. more reading it is...

    -tony
     
    post, Apr 30, 2007
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