metric/imperial

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Greybeard, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    Can a drawing be created in metric-then part way thru be converted to
    drawing with imperial? Or must it all be done in one then converted?
     
    Greybeard, Feb 2, 2004
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  2. Greybeard

    R Wink Guest

    I do something simular..I insert or draw and item and the use the
    scale command, selecting what I want scaled and use "(/ 1 25.4)" for
    the amount to scale:

    Command: scale
    Select objects: c
    Specify first corner: Specify opposite corner: 4 found
    Select objects:
    Specify base point:
    Specify scale factor or [Reference]: (/ 1 25.4)
    0.0393701
     
    R Wink, Feb 2, 2004
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  3. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    thank you. I just tried it out and it works just fine.
     
    Greybeard, Feb 2, 2004
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  4. Greybeard

    Ian A. White Guest

    You can, but AutoCAD only understands drawing units.

    If you start drawing with inches as the drawing unit and then want to
    switch to millimetres as the drawing unit, you will have to scale
    everything up by 25.4 so that an object that was 1 unit (inch) now is
    25.4 units (millimetres).

    You need to be aware that each time you scale up and back, you run the
    risk of introducing small errors. The more you do this, the worse it
    will get because there will be rounding and it all adds up.
     
    Ian A. White, Feb 2, 2004
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  5. Greybeard

    Jim Patrick Guest

    If you use "25.4" or it's inverse "10/254" there will be no measurable
    error, even after thousands of rescalings. They are exact.

    Errors will happen if you try to use ".03937" or any similar decimal
    as the inverse because they are not exact.
     
    Jim Patrick, Feb 2, 2004
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  6. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    I see what you mean-I will do it in the base unit and then do a final
    scaling using 25.4-then save both versions. My thanks to
    you for the help.
     
    Greybeard, Feb 2, 2004
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  7. Greybeard

    Paul Turvill Guest

    The SCALE command can make the "conversion" at any time.
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    Paul Turvill, Feb 2, 2004
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  8. Greybeard

    Ian A. White Guest

    Well, I have had survey information get screwed up and that was only
    scaling up and back by 1000 to go from metres to millimetres and back.

    The particular boundary ended up being scaled a few times and before
    long errors started creeping in. After that it became standard practice
    to do the boundary in metres, then copy it and scale the copy up. If it
    needed to be altered because of new survey data, the original boundary
    was modified, then copied and the copy scaled with the previous boundary
    deleted.
     
    Ian A. White, Feb 2, 2004
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  9. Greybeard

    Jim Patrick Guest

    Something's fishy.
    You're either A) Running an add-on that intercepts the scale call,
    B)Running a boundary about 30 times the size of the solar system, or
    somebody's finger slipped on the keyboard. <G>

    Autocad uses signed double precision floating numbers (AKA (64bit IEEE
    reals), where one bit is the (+/-) sign, 52 bits are the mantissa (0
    thru 4,503,599,627,370,496) and 11 bits are the exponent -1023 to
    +1023. On a 4 km boundary the accuracy is 0.000000001mm.

    Autocad has many faults; but math precision is not one.

    __
    A very old (1983?) drawing of the solar system demonstrating the huge
    dynamic range inherent in the 64-bit math.
    http://www.intelcad.com/pages/autocad/solar.dwg (10,292 bytes)
     
    Jim Patrick, Feb 4, 2004
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