Mate Error Message can be Erroneous

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by POH, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. POH

    POH Guest

    When an attempt is made, for example, to mate two components to have
    parallel faces set coincident, SolidWorks may present the user with an
    "error" message such as: "Planar faces are not coincident. Separation
    distance is 0.0806163mm."

    Unfortunately, although the message is factual, it is NOT complete and
    is potentially misleading, since the root cause is unidentified.

    The reason the mate is not possible stems from the fixed conditions of
    the components within the assembly. By floating one of them, the mate
    can be applied without difficulty.

    The enhancement, therefore, is for the mate function to provide more
    detail in its messages, so that the user can, for example, be reminded
    of the limitation(s) created by a pre-existing FIXED condition.
    Although the Feature Manager shows fixed status with (f) before the
    component's name, this is not always immediately obvious when the
    component (selected from the viewport) happens to be far down in the
    sub-assembly tree.

    Note: This, for example, is really no different from the notice
    provided by the current messages which refer to a new mate as
    overdefining due to the existing (fixed by mates) relationships.

    Perhaps the selected face (or other entity) of the fixed component
    could be flagged within the Mate Selections Dialog Box in a way to show
    the immovable condition. This would serve to remind the user of the
    need to restore floatation in order to achieve mate success.

    If you agree with this sort of enhancement, please put in a request to
    SolidWorks.

    Per O. Hoel
     
    POH, Jan 16, 2006
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  2. POH

    Marty Guest

    After SW 2006 I have found on occasion that I get the same error
    message you have mention above. but errouniously. At least on of the
    parallel surfaces is not fixed and is theoretically able to accept a
    coincident constraint. However, to make a coincident mate I have to
    first make a distant mate then change the distant to "0" then it will
    allow a coincident mate. It can all be done before accepting the mate
    but it does add a few extra key stokes to the operation.

    Marty
     
    Marty, Jan 16, 2006
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  3. We've seen the same false error message with SW06. We can often get the
    parts to mate by just moving them closer. Your method is probably faster and
    definitely more reliable.

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Jan 16, 2006
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  4. POH

    Jean Marc Guest

    I have it randomly on SW04, the cure I found is supress and unsupress (?).
    Happens when switching configs, very rare.

    My .01 Eu
    JM
     
    Jean Marc, Jan 18, 2006
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  5. POH

    PJ Guest

    I have seen this also, only since 2006. I have been able to get around
    this behaviour by suppressing any one of the existing mates to the
    offending part, this snaps the part into position, then unsuppressing
    the mate again. The mates then all behave normally with no errors.
    Strange.
    PJ.
     
    PJ, Jan 19, 2006
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