Magneta outline of feature in drawing mode

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by Doug Eicher, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. Doug Eicher

    Doug Eicher Guest

    Reference this picture
    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=99803630&size=o

    This part is an assembly that I created another part "on the fly"
    using the original part as a reference.

    As you can see in the section view, the filled part is the "overlay".
    It extends over the surface shown in the left hand view. When I
    created the final feature, which was a rotated protrusion, Pro shows
    it as a magenta outline in the drawing (might show up as purple in the
    JPEG), why? Also notice how it is not "hidden" by the outside surfaces
    in either view.

    Geom Check is greyed out, so I'm *ass*uming there is nothing wrong
    with the geometry. I've opened just the overlaid part and no Geom
    Check there either. Here's that drawing...same thing:
    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=99806060&size=o

    Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
    Doug
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    Doug Eicher, Feb 14, 2006
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    Jeff Howard Guest

    Reference this picture
    Not gonna "sign up" to take a gander but sounds like you've created a surface
    feature vs a "protrusion".
     
    Jeff Howard, Feb 14, 2006
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    Doug Eicher Guest

    Doug Eicher, Feb 15, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    What were you doing with this "rotated protrusion" and where: if you'd created it
    in assembly mode to make a cut, it defaults to surface. Most of these are highly
    technical questions related to HOW you are making these 'copied' parts ~ what
    method you've employed (Copy gemometry from other model or Shrinkwrap from other
    model) come to mind as ways to 'reference' another part. But to avoid guessing the
    right (or just as often, the wrong) answer, we need to know the how you are doing
    this and it often doesn't hurt to know WHY ~ what's your goal, what're you trying
    to accomplish. Then we can tell you some good methods for getting where you're
    going. And they may not be the ones you originally selected. We do not want to be
    put in the position of going to great pains to tell you precisely how to do
    something dumb.
    And the magenta goes away when you use the surface to create a solid through
    'Edit>Solidify' or 'Edit>Thicken'. Select the quilt first, then the menu item.
     
    David Janes, Feb 15, 2006
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    Doug Eicher Guest

    Reference this:
    http://static.flickr.com/33/100147855_d51b49b2e2_o.jpg

    The dark surfaces is the nitrile overlay

    So it seems I made a quilt. As to why I did what I did. The large part
    is a machined casting which gets overlaid with nitrile. I chose
    "create component in assembly mode" I chose "part" and "create
    features". At that point I created a revolved protrusion over the thin
    "lip" (feature on left of aforementioned picture). Then I created a
    extruded protrution on the bottom surface and finally the revolved
    protrusion on the right hand surface. That is the one that became the
    quilt.

    The reason I created the overlay using the assembly part as reference
    is for expediency. I've used the same technique to create welded
    overlay for seats and valve discs. I've never ran into the problem
    with quilting until now. Funny it's only the last feature that
    quilted, none of the other surfaces show that.

    I tried to solidify and Pro complains that it has a problem resolving
    the interesction of the revolved feature and the extruded feature.
    Thicken works but I get this "hole" in the hatching in the cross
    section view unless I choose .001 and then there is no cross hatching.

    Thanks for the suggestions.
    Doug
     
    Doug Eicher, Feb 15, 2006
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    Doug Eicher Guest

    So..if you inadvertently press the "surfaces" button in the
    dashboard...you make a surface...imagine.....Sorry for the waste of
    bandwidth

    <doug slinks off redfaced>

    Doug
     
    Doug Eicher, Feb 15, 2006
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    Jeff Howard Guest

    ... if you inadvertently press ...
    No prob. Sometimes just talkin' about it helps. I know. `;^)
     
    Jeff Howard, Feb 15, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    I think I might know what's going on, between your descriptions and the picture,
    Doug. It sounds like you revolved an open cross section (i.e., the geometry didn't
    form a closed figure, something like revolving a U | without putting a top on it).
    So, while you could have made it a thin protusion right off the bat, it defaults
    to a surface. To create the solid you want, make sure the original cross section
    is closed, even if it buts up against another solid. So, if it is against another
    solid, you can use its edge as one side of your cross section sketch with 'Use
    Edge'. Alternatively, create you open, revolved surface, then, make surface copies
    of your solid and merge the copied surfaces with your open surface to form an
    enclosed quilt.

    The only other thing that corresponds to the symptoms you've described is the
    rovolved U with separate surface geometry for the top, but which is not merged,
    does not form a single, merged quilt. So, while it is encloses a watertight
    volume, is can not be solidified because it is not a single quilt but adjacent
    patches. Merge the U with its top and then solidify.
     
    David Janes, Feb 15, 2006
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