M090

Has anyone tried the new M090 release of WF 3.0 for Vista? And?

 

Currently we all have M070. Mine's the only computer with Vista. I'm
wondering about compatibility the other computers in my section that
run ProE on XP Pro. Should we all upgrade to the new M090 and is it
compatible with XP as well as Vista? We usually have a policy of
staying on the same date code.

 

Now I've just had an email from PTC saying that M090 does not support
Vista Enterprise, only Vista Business and Ultimate. Yet Enterprise is
a package aimed at businesses, so they can spread payments for
multiple licences. <SCREAM!>

 

The website does say that. It's here:

https://www.ptc.com/appserver/cs/view/solution.jsp?n=136411

"Starting with Wildfire 3.0 M090, Windows Vista Business and Vista
Ultimate will be supported in both 32 and 64 bit versions. Because
PTC's hardware and graphics partners continue to address issues with
the Vista platform, certified configurations for Vista will not be
available until summer 2007. For additional information about
supported platforms when they become available, visit the Platform
Support page: http://www.ptc.com/partners/hardware/current/support.htm"

 

I can't see it either. I would have been happy with XP but our IT guy
wanted to put it on :-( Vista is apparently better from a security
standpoint. Not that I think we had troubles before, and anyway, most
of our workstations here are still on XP and the rest are Macs.

It hasn't helped. My workstation is totally locked up now and all I
did was try to save a file.

 

Our IT guys have put in another hard on my workstation and set up XP
on it, then reinstalled ProE and my other applications. They wanted to
keep my old setup in case XP didn't improve things. And it hasn't! I'm
still going slow (at times). Another guy has M090 on an XP
workstation, an older workstation with less grunt than mine and it
still goes faster than mine.

So we've come to the conclusion that the problem is the graphics
driver. We put an Nvidia driver for the Vista setup and even though
it's now on XP we're still using that driver. I don't quite get it,
but Nvidia uses DirectX, which I believe is M$'s attempt to oust
OpenGL. OGL is embedded in DirectX rather than used directly and the
release that DirectX uses is much older then the current OGL version.
Something like that. So we're going to try a different graphics card
next week.

So the moral of the story is: stay the hell away from Vista for a long
time.

 

Yep,... and we know everyone will forget how slow Vista was/is in a
1-2 years and yet we will waste/spend more to manage the M$ hog.
It's called bend over progress... (thank you sir may I have
another....)

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Actually I'm wondering if the way I construct assemblies is affecting
my display. Most of my parts have a merge feature as the first
feature, which references back to a master part. I've always modeled
this way since before copy geom came along, and as I don't have it in
my Pro/Assembly package it seems to be the only way to parametrically
reference a master part without making mulitple copy features. The
preselect display sure goes haywire with a merge feature in the part.
All the surfaces and curves that aren't even displayed all flash
momentarily when my cursor moves over the model. Does anybody else
hate that preselect function?

 

Actually I'm wondering if the way I construct assemblies is affecting
my display. Most of my parts have a merge feature as the first
feature, which references back to a master part. I've always modeled
this way since before copy geom came along, and as I don't have it in
my Pro/Assembly package it seems to be the only way to parametrically
reference a master part without making mulitple copy features. The
preselect display sure goes haywire with a merge feature in the part.
All the surfaces and curves that aren't even displayed all flash
momentarily when my cursor moves over the model. Does anybody else
hate that preselect function?


Only when I pass over something like a shrinkwrap or large skeleton part and the display just B--OO--GGGG----SSS D--O--W--NNNNNN. Actually, I put the shrinkwrap in there to SIMPLIFY display/regen (so maybe it simplified regen and complicated display!?!) So, maybe just (temporarily) turn off pre-select?

David Janes

 

It maybe possible to some degree but personally, I'd suggest you
switch to copy geometry, it's more flexible.

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And how do you turn off preselect? I can switch to "Annotation" but
that only last until the next select, then it goes back to "Smart".

 

Wish I could do copy Geom, but it's not included in my package.